First to Third World in one lifetime

[clambake]

could you provide a link to where they actually said "we want to make it harder for cars"?

[RandomGuy]

In our city, the liberals actually admit they want to make it harder for cars and easier for bicycles and public transportation, even when a MAX ride is subsidized over $20 per person.

I am not entirely sure that American cities are really set up well for mass transit systems due to the density factors you cite.

BUT

If you don't think vehicles and cars are subsidized equivalently, you would be in for something of a shock if you delve into transporation budgets.

[Wild Cobra]

An interesting article:

Portland Transit: Forward into the Past

Please tell me how cars are subsidized.

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Another:

Portland Going Nowhere

[coyotes_geek]

Toll roads are a pretty good idea, given how little we tax gasoline.

If you want to use up the road by driving on it, pay for it.

Better would be simply to tax gasoline much more, and avoid the overhead that invariably accompanies toll systems though.

Take a good chunk of the gasoline taxes and use that to fund roads, or other transportation infrastructure projects.

Raising the gas tax is long overdue.

[MannyIsGod]

Roads are super subsidized. If we only built the roads we paid for we'd have the interstate system and some main roads but everything else would be dirt. Its ridiculous to me that people bring up subsidation with mass transit but don't apply that logic to the extra roads that hardly get used but are necessary to make the entire system functional.

[MannyIsGod]

Also I have no idea if subsidation is a word or if I spelled it right.

[boutons_deux]

Raising the gas tax won't ever happen.

In fact any national policy to discourage fuel consumption will never happen.

The oilcos are one of the many part-owners of DC.

The oilcos, and their investors, are looking forward to $Ts in profits coming in the next few years as oil supply fails increasingly to meet demand. Add on +30%-50% inflation due to oil traders profits.

Corps and capitalists are pushing Western civilization over a cliff and the Repugs are greasing the skids.

[TeyshaBlue]

Also I have no idea if subsidation is a word or if I spelled it right.

lol

subsidization

[boutons_deux]

Internet, MoFo, do you use it?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/subsidization

[johnsmith]

Here's a whacky idea, how about we take the existing gas tax, leave it as it is, and spend it on....oh, I don't know, only what it was intended for?


Wait, now that I just re-read that, this sounds impossible and just plain foolish.......back to the raising the gas tax idea.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm doing my best to upgrade/maintain federal network infrastructure. Does that count?

[boutons_deux]

water networks, sewer networks, electrical distribution networks are all much more important that bits and bytes, sooner or later.