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    Wilt is the greatest scorer and the best player IMO

    Bron is not even top 10 yet..

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    Scottie is butthurt because he wasnt the man in Chicago

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    Kooler than Jesus Nathan Explosion's Avatar
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    Steven A Smith is having a stroke and heart attack on the air talking about this subject right now.

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    ..witnesses to what? your a heats fan for Gods sake...H-E-A-T-S fan...
    LeBron finally leading the way. All season I said it had to be Wade because I didn't think LeBron could. Once the playoffs started I believed Wade had to be the closer because LeBron couldn't. I was wrong...

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    But you said one thing that that separated Jordan from Bird and Magic, his defense. Jordan was a dominant defender. Him and Pippen were one of the most dominant defensive duos ever. Bird was known to make plays but he was never a lock down defender, and Magic was laughable on defense at times.
    MJ did have some advantages over Bird and Magic, but that doesn't mean he was better player. And he wasn't bacause he comparatively lacked bball IQ, rebounding and assisting.

    He wasn't clear cut better, it's questionable if he was the best of the three. They were contemporary players, MJ is 2 years younger than Magic and 4 years younger than Bird.

    MJ figured out how to play to win after almost 10 years. Magic and Bird made their teams championship contenders as rookies.

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    LeBron will never get to prove he can win it all without another superstar. Jordan won with a star player in Pippen and lots of good role players.

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    MJ figured out how to play to win after almost 10 years. Magic and Bird made their teams championship contenders as rookies.
    Interesting point. However, I could contend that Bird and Magic were the final pieces to some damn talented teams that put their respective teams in contention. MJ had almost nothing...

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    Steven A Smith is having a stroke and heart attack on the air talking about this subject right now.
    How does that guy get fired and rehired by ESPN so many times??

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    Pippen is somewhat right. Lebron is the better defender, rebounder and playmaker, Jordan is the better offensive threat by consistency. The thing is Jordan's gap in that category is not even that wide so if you take that into consideration and realize al the other things Lebron Does better in th court, Pippen's statement makes a bit more sense.

    Jordan's biggest advantage over Lebron was the mental aspect of his game. There has been a lot of myths spread about Jordan's ability as a player and sometimes I just laugh at all the people who makes him into this flawless athlete but one part that was never exaggerated was his psychological approach to the game.

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    Olajuwon would give headaches to Wilt

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    Olajuwon would give headaches to Wilt
    Maybe. Never saw either of them play...

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    Maybe. Never saw either of them play...

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    Lebron is better in almost every category, of course he is better then MJ.

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    LeBron will never get to prove he can win it all without another superstar. Jordan won with a star player in Pippen and lots of good role players.
    Pippen isnt a superstar?

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    Olajuwon would give headaches to Wilt
    I think the infamous series vs. DRob proved, with finality, that the best offense beats the best defense 1on1, and pretty handily. That's why it will always take the right players and a sustained team effort to be strong defensively, while any team can be incredibly potent offensively with a couple stars and ballsy role players.

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    LeBron has the right tools to maybe get there some day, but as of now this is a ridiculous conversation. One year removed from quitting against the Celtics, and losing in the EC playoffs with homecourt 2 years in a row, and he may already be GOAT? This is BRHornet level exaggeration.

    But par for the course nowadays, given the Dirk comparisons with Bird and Duncan. It take lot more than a conference le or two to make a career.

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    Pippen isnt a superstar?
    Is he regarded as an all-time great player?

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    Is he regarded as an all-time great player?
    is he a top 50 player?

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    LeBron has the right tools to maybe get there some day, but as of now this is a ridiculous conversation. One year removed from quitting against the Celtics, and losing in the EC playoffs with homecourt 2 years in a row, and he may already be GOAT? This is BRHornet level exaggeration.

    But par for the course nowadays, given the Dirk comparisons with Bird and Duncan. It take lot more than a conference le or two to make a career.
    Very well said, especially the bold. LeBron James might be the best player in the NBA for years but legacies need rings for validation. He's probably already a top 10 player ever if he continues his statistical dominance, regardless of future ring count, but his GOAT argument took a huge hit when he took less money and a lesser role for a chance at rings.

    Unfortunately for LeBron, Wade is a Jordan-esque player at his best and is undoubtedly better than Pippin in terms of raw talent (at least IMHO). And, even more unfortunately for LeBron, Wade already has a ring as the clear cut top dog.

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    Pippen isnt a superstar?
    Neither is Bosh..

    Is Wade really that much better than a prime Pippen?

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    is he a top 50 player?
    If we're talking retired players only, then yes. But being in the top 50 doesn't qualify him as a superstar. He's not in the same league as MJ, Bird, Magic, Wilt, and so forth.

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    LeBron will never get to prove he can win it all without another superstar. Jordan won with a star player in Pippen and lots of good role players.
    Jordan had 2 Hall of Famers, All Stars and a group of mentally tough players throughout his career.

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    Interesting point. However, I could contend that Bird and Magic were the final pieces to some damn talented teams that put their respective teams in contention. MJ had almost nothing...
    They weren't "final pieces", they were prominent in their teams at least as MJ for the Bulls.

    The Lakers were stacked with talent, but Magic had to play center in the game 6 of the '80 finals. Kareem went down in game 5. He had something like 42 pts / 15 rbs / 7 assists / 3 stals game to clinch the finals MVP as rookie (btw, the only rookie to win the award).

    Bird made a huge impact with the Celtics as well. They passed from 29W-53L to 61W-21L the season he joined the C's. Parish and McHale didn't yet play for the C's that season. Parish was good, but not great. McHale was a star in his own right but it took him some seasons to that level.

    MJ when joined the Bulls and they missed some playoffs, and Pippen always told that the teams where he played never missed the playoffs. MJ played with good players too, he wasn't alone.

    Simply it took him more time to learn how to play right and Phil Jax helped him in that a lot.

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    LeBron James is just unreal right now. Hes definitely the best player in the playoffs.

    people that said "LeBron cant close games" during the regular season.
    why are you laughing? He couldn't.

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    Jordan had 2 Hall of Famers, All Stars and a group of mentally tough players throughout his career.
    Were those players HOF worthy and All-Stars before Jordan was on the Bulls? No, because Jordan came first and they were brought in around him.

    LeBron had to join forces with Wade, a multiple All-Star and Finals MVP who was on track to a HOF career himself.

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