You forgot MPG.
Look at 01-02 when DRob was injured...
Malik put up 13 and 8
During our last le run he put up @ 9 and 6....off the bench...this means behind Duncan and Robinson...not starting alongside one of them.
Mind you...he put up those numbers going up against the ing Lakers during their 3 peat...
What's the point of bringing it up though...memory is considered to be a factor in intelligence...and these dumb mother ers are sorely lacking in that area.
Ahh...my bad..good point Shoog.
MPG in the playoffs...
Malik: 17.5
Nazr: 20.4
@ Whottt still on Malik's balls.
Does he make you shave them after you hand scrub them?
I'm sorry but who exactly are you? Another dime a dozen bag that uses obnoxiousness in lieu of an actual basketball take because it's the only way he can get a response? Not impressed...and I'd rather read a take by LakerGod.
I bet you if you start a thread about local development, he'd be all over it.I'm sorry but who exactly are you?
Bye Bye Bye!
I still like Malik.
Yeah, and to quote Buck Harvey Rose was getting as many minutes per game as DRob.During our last le run he put up @ 9 and 6....off the bench...this means behind Duncan and Robinson...not starting alongside one of them.
Well I see nothing is going to change for you Whott, Nazr still can't carry Malik's lofty jock, in your opinion.
Three weeks ago you were ing that the trade cost us home court, we took care of that with 3 straight at Phoenix, now you're down to saying Malik's stats, though worse, were better than Rose's just because he came off the pine?
Lame, just admit Nazr is a substantial upgrade to what Malik gave us.
, we got our starting center for the remainder of the Tim Duncan era and you're holding out this half ass dip pipe dream that the 10th guy on the bench who never met a pass he didn't shoot is better.
Regarding Malik Rose ....
I'm with you fellers.
Very well said.Malik fans aren't "stupid." They loved and appreciated Rose for being a hardworking, dedicated player who fit in well with both the team and the community. Obviously, fans get upset when players they have become fond of are traded.
And guess what? Nazr Mohammed has proven to be a hardworking, dedicated player who fits in well with both the team and community.
So the Malik fans miss Malik, and appreciate Nazr. Not mutually exclusive events. Just further proof that the Spurs' braintrust knows what it's doing.
(And that Isaiah Thomas doesn't
P.S. I still love ya, Malik!
is this thread about malik love? cuz i think we all still love him and won't stop
is this thread about nazr bringing more to the table than leek??? cuz that's a fact and we all see it.
do you think it's hard to love malik and appreciate nazr's job???
maybe I'm too stupid
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Malik is a Knick. him.
[QUOTE=Aggie Hoopsfan]Yeah, and to quote Buck Harvey Rose was getting as many minutes per game as DRob.
Well I see nothing is going to change for you Whott, Nazr still can't carry Malik's lofty jock, in your opinion.[quote]
The trade was a sucess...
That doesn't change the fact that:
Malik wasn't garbage.
He doesn't deserve the hate. Period. At all. In any way shape or form.
It was a gamble to pull that trade off and it looked like anything but an even trade when Nazr was on the bench. It looked like a project that wouldn't pay dividends until the next season...and even you were conceding that point at the time.
The injuries to Duncan and Rasho changed everything...but what you fail to admit is that Nazr never showed jack except suck when he was on the bench...he was worse than Malik was on his worst day...and if not for being forced to give him minutes due to injury he might be a huge liablity.
But what happened was that the trade did work out...we overcame the loss of HCA and Nazr is giving us the thing we expected him to give us this season rather than next...and all is well...
And there's been virtually zero Nazr criticism and much praise for the job he has done...
Have you seen the so called Rose lovers ripping Nazr?
Even those that were against the trade have been praising Nazr...
So why then are you mother ers still hating on Malik in ignorance?
What is that you hope to accomplish by ripping a guy that wanted to wear the Silver and Black as much as anyone who ever played for this franchise?
To prove what aholes you are?
You STFU bandwagoner.....All your ing and crying about Malik being traded was stupid, without Nazr in the middle we would have major problems.
So if you are one of those people who still wishes we had Malik
Nothing wrong with being Malik Rose fan. He has the rings YOU DON'T have a ring (unless this is Shaq trolling the forum).
Who gives a flying about how Nazr was dealing with a leg injury and a new team two months ago.but what you fail to admit is that Nazr never showed jack except suck when he was on the bench.
Do you realize what a dumbass you look like when you rail about two months ago? What matters is what he is giving us when it matters (in the playoffs). And where that is concerned, he's doing things and making contributions that Malik couldn't even think about doing.
I am not trying to hate on Malik, that's over with and in the past, which is coincidentally (between your Malik mancrush and your whining about Nazr's play in March 2005) where you seem to be living.
It blows my mind that you are so bent on trashing Nazr for his play two months ago and yet come up with an excuse a minute for Brent Barry. Show some consistency man, damn.
What an Aggie you are...look who started this thread...look at it's le...now tell me who the can't let it go? Did I start this thread? No...who did? Who started the thread? Was it me? Or was it a Malik hater?
And I am not trashing Nazr...this tool and you...are acting like Malik never played like Nazr has been playing...it's a false statement, he's played better...a lot better ...I pointed it out...you call it hate...I call it the truth...if can't handle it then don't bring it up.
I am not ripping Nazr...I am very very happy with his play...the question is...why do you and your ilk feel compelled to keep hating on Malik?
And if you really want it let go..then rip the Rose hater that started this thread...he's the one that couldn't let it go.
Psst, no one forced you to respond.
I'm not acting like Malik never played some good ball. I'm acting like someone who feels we made a significant upgrade by getting Nazr over what we had with Rose.
Who gives a what Rose did a couple of years ago? His game was deteriorating all around, and was on an inversely proportional decline relative to his salary.
Everyone like you seems to want to hang on '99 and . This isn't '99, it's 2005. And here and now, and for the rest of the Tim Duncan era, Nazr >>>> Rose, no matter who is playing where.
but but but
Rose had a great game Vs the Raptors in 02!!!!
stretch stretch reach reach
Malik was good in 03. When he got his contract, I was like wtf?! How did this guy get 8 mil per year. At best he deserved 5 mil/year and that's stretching it. He really ran into trouble last season when he thought that 8 mil meant he had to score.
One of the downfalls last year was that the spurs didn't have another active body at 6-9 or taller that could block shots and score at times in the post. Rasho hasn't really done that great of a job. Nazr has filled that brilliantly this year. Rose will never fill that role because he's closer to 6-5 and will never be a good post defender or shot blocker.
I saw nazr play a game last year and thought damn, it would be nice if we got a player like that and could find some dope stupid enough to take malik's contract. Well, damn ask and you receive.
I liked maliks hustle up to the 03 finals. After that he stopped playing d and got caught up with his awful offense and let all the shots he was missing get to him. A play that sticks in my mind was when he missed a 15 footer then was pissed at himself while the guy he matched up with ran down the other end and scored. That was the beginning of the end for malik, and thank god.
i thought the Spurs were a family? you guys don't think it's killing him to see his brothers on the court winning a championship...
hey life's a and he has to buck up and move on no doubt, but to say Malik, or to say a good reason why he should not be at the game is because he's not a spur anymore (tpark) is 100% bandwagon behavior and proof positive that you guys think of the players as simple pieces of meat...sad really.
I ain't suckin the guy off, but i won't turn my back on being a malik fan either..
i could understand the nfl...the player turnover rate is crazy there...but malik had been a spur for years...you guys make me sick.
If Rasho were a man, malik would still be here. (sorry rash fans)
Nazr HAD to be brought in.
If you want to blame anyone for getting Malik traded, blame Rasho. That dude really sucks balls. If it weren't for ineffectiveness, the Spurs wouldn't have shopped around for another big.
Prove it...
The only thing that declined was his PT.Who gives a what Rose did a couple of years ago? His game was deteriorating all around, and was on an inversely proportional decline relative to his salary.
That remains to be seen...it remains to be seen that Nazr is going to be here beyond next season...if he wants to get $$$$ it's not going to be that easy to keep him...Everyone like you seems to want to hang on '99 and . This isn't '99, it's 2005. And here and now, and for the rest of the Tim Duncan era, Nazr >>>> Rose, no matter who is playing where.
And if you think Malik was overpaid...if Nazr tests the market he will be pull in a huge contract that will far exceed his worth, like every other bigman in the NBA not named Duncan or Garnett. He's got an eye candy game and eye candy stats...He's probably going to get offered close to max dollars...I gurantee you his agent is going to tell him to test the market and hold out for big $$.
But the point is...I am not the one dwelling on the past...you are, your little buddy thread starter is...you are trying to kick a man when he is down...and for absolutely no reason. And if you are gonna act like Malik wasn't even in Nazr's league you are going to get proven wrong. Hater.
And I don't "hate" Nazr...in fact I haven't criticized him ever(other than his J)...and I haven't criticized the trade in a loooooong time...
You OTOH still rip Malik every chance you get...takes balls to say I am the one that can't let it go...
The trade was good for the team ,and i 've liked malik for his energy & hard play for years , but when he signed the big money deal a few years back i did not think he would finish deal out ...
I think most spurs fans were bummed out when the deal went downit felt like a big brother got traded to the family on the other side of town , you gotta miss his stupid tv spots
That said as it looks right now ,POP & RC were right again ...
Nazr had a tough deal coming here trying to replace a fan fave in malik!!!
He has handled it with class ,he works his butt off on the glass both ends & as he keeps getting more comfortable with the system he,s only gonna get better , & he ,s 4-5 inches taller ,longer,& cheaper in the long run & the TEAM has to do whats best in long run, let the knicks pay the contract
MALIK WILL ALWAYS BE SPUR AT HEART & IN THE HEARTS OF MANY IN SA
GO SPURS GO GO NAZR GO
Well i'm going to get a philly cheese steak ,all this MALIK talk ,i'm hungry now
Seriously, how can anyone not find Sequ hillarious?
Yeah, but if helps the Spurs win a le this season and has a decent year next year, it's still worth it even if he leaves. I'll take a season and a half of Nazr in exchange for Malik any day.That remains to be seen...it remains to be seen that Nazr is going to be here beyond next season...if he wants to get $$$$ it's not going to be that easy to keep him...
It's worth it because Nazr actually plays and contributes. While I find it hard to believe that Malik would have had the presense under the basket that Nazr has brought, I know it's certainly possible that Rose could have contributed more if Pop had given him minutes. Still, he could have done more to earn them.
But the point is this: it really doesn't matter if Malik would have contributed with more playing time. Pop simply wasn't going to play him big minutes. If for no other reason, the trade was a good one because of that. I recognize what Malik has meant to the franchise, but I also understand that it turned out to be a great trade. You can't admit that people like me really aren't Malik haters.
Close to max dollars? Now I know that you don't know what you're talking about.And if you think Malik was overpaid...if Nazr tests the market he will be pull in a huge contract that will far exceed his worth, like every other bigman in the NBA not named Duncan or Garnett. He's got an eye candy game and eye candy stats...He's probably going to get offered close to max dollars...
Brodels...I've had just about enough of your ...You are the Vince Carter of ing posters...it looks good and it sounds good...but it's really ...
Next season I am gonna do battle blogs and I am going to take great pleasure in whipping your ass for the entire season. You just be ready for it.
Once I figure out how to get my word count down...You're gonna wish you had never heard of the word.
Malik wouldn't have had the presence under the basket...but he's faster, he can rebound just as well...and he's got a good J contrary to what most people on the forum think...
And when Malik is on...he's capable putting up Duncan like numbers for a game, in the playoffs, off the bench...he's done it before and from many of the same spots on the court.
Close to max dollars? Now I know that you don't know what you're talking about.
Have you been watching Nazr play?
Do you see the kinda of contracts C's get? Look at the contract LaFrentz is on from 3 years ago...
Rasho took a pay cut to come here....
Look at what Memhet Okur got for being a back up on a high profile team...
If we win the le Nazr is going to be able to say he's started against Ben Wallace and won a championship...he's bigger than Wallace and he is a master glassman...on top of that he's blocking shots...he can keep this up against Wallace if he wants...thanks to Duncan.
Do you see the offensive reounding?
His game is total eye candy...he looks ing good, his numbers look good.
Every GM in the NBA right now that has a guard oriented team with no rebounding is watching Nazr and getting a hardon...
They are picturing Nazr cleaning up after their guards and being a tough intimidating presence in the paint capable of holding his own against Ben Wallace...and he's also got a rep for being able to do a better than average job against Shaq...
Every GM in the NBA, that doesn't have " the man" inside for their team, is looking at Nazr and thinking he could be that man for them...
He can't...but he damn sure looks like he could...he's going to be able to say he started for an NBA finalist at worst and champion at best...
He's gonna have a lot of leverage, his agent is going to tell him to get it now because it's the last chance he's going to have to get it all..
If he wants to get paid he is going to get paid...a lot....unless he just totally sucks next year...and his game is so simple I wouldn't count on it happening.
It could still work out...the Spurs will be able to do a S&T with him if they want...I think he's got major trade value. I am just saying that it's not a given at all that Nazr is going to be a Spur for the rest of Duncan's prime as Aggie was homering on about.
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