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    It’s Not About Race: Obama Trounces Cain With African American Voters

    Ahead of tonight’s Republican debate some conservatives might be thinking that Herman Cain could bring in some African American voters, but according to PPP survey of South Carolina, Obama destroys Cain with African American voters, 93%-4%.

    PPP tested the idea that Herman Cain would be popular with African-Americans in their latest South Carolina poll. The pollster found that Cain had only a 12% approval rating with African Americans and a 52% disapproval rating.

    Overall, Cain is a relative unknown in the state. He has a 26% favorable rating, a 35% unfavorable rating, and 39% were not sure. Obama beats Cain 43%-40% head to head, but it is clear that most of that support is coming from white male Republicans. (Cain’s favorability with women in the state is only 21%).

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama...iticus+USA+%29

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    I think a Palin / Cain ticket would be the strongest for the GOp..




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    It’s Not About Race: Obama Trounces Cain With African American Voters

    Ahead of tonight’s Republican debate some conservatives might be thinking that Herman Cain could bring in some African American voters, but according to PPP survey of South Carolina, Obama destroys Cain with African American voters, 93%-4%.

    PPP tested the idea that Herman Cain would be popular with African-Americans in their latest South Carolina poll. The pollster found that Cain had only a 12% approval rating with African Americans and a 52% disapproval rating.

    Overall, Cain is a relative unknown in the state.
    He has a 26% favorable rating, a 35% unfavorable rating, and 39% were not sure. Obama beats Cain 43%-40% head to head, but it is clear that most of that support is coming from white male Republicans. (Cain’s favorability with women in the state is only 21%).
    lol @ a poll confirming that Cain is unknown in the state. Duh.

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    The big dogs are out.
    And by "big dogs are out" you mean an endless stream of regurgitated talking points, and shameless pandering to the base with nothing in the way of real substance?

    First few debates in any primary are really pointless, although it was funny seeing Pawlenty back away from his criticisms of Romney's healthcare reform.

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    And by "big dogs are out" you mean an endless stream of regurgitated talking points, and shameless pandering to the base with nothing in the way of real substance?.
    Umm, no.

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    Oh come on. Even the chick can beat Obama with both hands tied behind her back. She would just use those long legs.

    Jobs,barrycare,smaller government....you should check it out....Also I take it back, the chick would beat barry.

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    lol all these GOP dbags a blind if they think simply throwing out a candidate will equal an automatic win. People said the same about the dems in 04

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    Jack, if Obama wins, you leave Spurstalk forever. If any GOP candidate wins, I'll leave forever. Since you're so confident. Deal?

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    Also, LOL At them not even talking about the economy. Bunch of pussies just like Jack.

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    Oh come on. Even [Mic e Bachman] can beat Obama with both hands tied behind her back.




    Please oh please, vote for her in the Republican primaries. I know I will.

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    Also, LOL At them not even talking about the economy. Bunch of pussies just like Jack.
    They talked about it plenty, but did little other than blame Democrats for it.

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    Please oh please, vote for her in the Republican primaries. I know I will.
    baggery move, tbh.

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    Also, LOL At them not even talking about the economy. Bunch of pussies just like Jack.
    Well the GOP did 'wrest control of Congress' starting January 1.

    The dems suck at campaigning compared to the GOP.

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    Well the GOP did 'wrest control of Congress' starting January 1.

    The dems suck at campaigning compared to the GOP.
    The Repugs are much bigger and more effective liars.

    Repugs campaigned against the Dems with "What about the jobs?", leading fooled-100-times voters to think the Repugs had plans for job creation, the moribund economy as a priority. Well, that was a lie.

    Repugs campaigned saying health care reform would screw seniors. Well, that was a lie, since Ryan and all the Repugs who HAD to vote for his plan destroys Medicare and totally screws seniors into poverty.

    And the Repugs know if they can block all Dem economic incentives and force a double dip in the criminal Banksters' Great Depression, the Repugs know they greatly increase their chance in 2012. Repugs don't GAF how much pain and poverty and deaths their politics directly and indirectly causes.

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    Money from Gingrich charity went to his for-profit businesses

    A May 2011 audit commissioned by the West Virginia Secretary of State found that a tax-exempt charity founded by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) paid money to several of his for-profit businesses.

    Experts told ABC News that Gingrich's Renewing American Leadership charity may have crossed the line by participating in the political process and helping to funnel cash to his profit-making enterprises.

    The charity is said to have purchased cases of books and DVDs from Gingrich Productions and paid an additional $220,000 to Gingrich Communications. Gingrich was featured in Renewing American Leadership fundraising letters and their website serves as a vehicle for his policy ideas.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/1...e+Raw+Story%29

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    baggery move, tbh.
    Meh, I always say like that, but never end up following through.

    If I really wanted to be a bag about it, I would start pushing her in some conservative forum somewhere.

    Usually I say I will vote for a Republican to emphasize how weak I think they are to some true believer like WC.

    I guess I should simply stop trying to point out how weak some of the candidates are and let them pick people like Bachmann, if it really makes them happy.

    Who am I to point out how unappealing some of their ideas are to moderates?

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    During the primaries candidates stir up the base by pretending to hold similar beliefs. In the general election (and, if elected, in office) they mostly piss backward on those beliefs.

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    This is a live audition for potential candidates to try out their skills at public speaking to the select few who will choose the GOP candidate and write their platform for them.

    For the general public, it's meaningless.

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    Oh come on. Even the chick can beat Obama with both hands tied behind her back. She would just use those long legs.
    The chick is Mic e Bachmann, and she's like 5'1".

    EDIT: Apparently she's also an ID subscriber.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michae..._b_868771.html

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    Please oh please, vote for her in the Republican primaries. I know I will.
    What if Perry is in that primary?

    I'm curious about what the Texas democrat perspective is here. Sure looks like the only way Perry's going to get out of the governors mansion is if he's relocating to the white house. I know it's obvious that Tx-dems would not vote for Perry over Obama in the general election just to get him out of Austin, but what about the primary?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    What if Perry is in that primary?

    I'm curious about what the Texas democrat perspective is here. Sure looks like the only way Perry's going to get out of the governors mansion is if he's relocating to the white house. I know it's obvious that Tx-dems would not vote for Perry over Obama in the general election just to get him out of Austin, but what about the primary?
    He's a pos... didn't debate Bill White (who would have kicked his ass) because his minions didn't feel he needed to. Can you imagine of Obama decided to ignore and dodge the debates? The outrage!!!

    I want him to run so he gets to face the fire of the press..he runs from the press in TX..in fact rarely grants interviews.. and when he does he never strays off message..

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    I don't think I could push the button for Rick Perry in the primary, even as an expedience to be rid of him as Tx Governor. I would be very uncomfortable about having helped to elect Rick Perry to the highest office in the land and indeed, to a seat of world power.

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    Too risky for me.

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    I understand the sentiment, WH, but he's unelectable, IMO. I'd vote for him in a heart beat just to be rid of him. You don't dodge press and debates as a GOP candidate.

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    I understand the sentiment, WH, but he's unelectable, IMO. I'd vote for him in a heart beat just to be rid of him.
    Sorry. Can't do it. Hope you're right about the unelectability.
    You don't dodge press and debates as a GOP candidate.
    If you're Rick Perry you do, and your people admire you for it.

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