When is the FIFA release date? I've been playing a lot of PES again lately and sometimes the stupid AI really gets to me. To have one of my players just sit and watch a ball go out of bounds drives me nuts.
Also, FIFA will include all MLS teams now so thats a bit plus for me.
FIFA 12 should be out Sept 27.
The AI in PES 11 does many idiotic things:
- chasing an airborne ball heading out-of-bounds and touching it for no god damned reason
- When you tackle a player, his body might just lie in front of you as a barrier until he resumes possession (you can hop over people easily in FIFA 11)
- pinpoint clearances that land on the feet of the forward at midfield
I hope both games really bring it this year.
LOL when the AI runs at a ball with no one around that is about to go out of bounds and then their first touch sends it flying over the line I feel like punching a baby. Its so bad.
Master League is still the best feature around though. If FIFA doesn't match that then I may still go with PES.
Yeah Master League is still top notch.
I also lol @ PES whenever you've sprung the offsides trap and the slow ass defenders suddenly start sprinting like Usain Bolt. There's no God damn way you can change directions and catch up to the forward in 3 seconds. Again, in FIFA 11 once you're in, you're in.
Been playing FIFA 11 for a while, and it had many flaws, just like PES 11 that makes you want to bash your head in.
-Defensive animations are much better, but just like PES11 (especially the CPU), defense just relies and crashing into the offensive playing at full speed.
-90% of deflections off the CPU always ends up right in the CPU's lap. Same with tackling, whenever you tackle the CPU the ball gets essentially passed to the near CPU player.
-Advantage play is there but damn does it need work. When the CPU gets advantage they can make several plays then after like 10 seconds, trip over the ball and they'll stick get play called back
There is something "robotic" about FIFA that I don'T like
After playing the out of PES 11 online ML, I bought FIFA 11 a few months ago and it's great online. That is, if you don't mind playing Real Madrid 90% of the time.
I can't believe PES 12 is coming out in North America first before Europe. I'll probably get that and wait for the Euro 2012 version of FIFA.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 Hands-On Preview
Thursday, August 11, 2011
We find out how PES 12's new AI improvements and off-the-ball controls feel out on the pitch.
At this year's E3, Konami unveiled Pro Evolution Soccer 2012's new feature set, promising--among other things--improved animation, AI updates for more realistic player positioning, and tighter, more accurate controls. Last year saw PES catching up with its archrival FIFA, but not surpassing it--at least in terms of critical reception. Is this year's string of updates enough to see PES to glory, or is it destined for a humiliating relegation?
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Before you jump into a match, PES asks you to create a player that you can make as realistic, or as horrifying you like. There are lots of customisation options, ranging from your player's body and facial characteristics, through to his kit colour and poses. Such is the wealth of options that it's all too easy to create some horrific looking players. There's a simple pleasure to be found in seeing a big-eared guy with a perm, blue goatee, and a bright pink strip run around the pitch, though, even if your opponents might not agree. On the more serious side of things, you also have the option of adjusting the level of pass support, i.e. the degree to which passes automatically home onto receiving players. This is a welcome addition, particularly given how tricky the new passing system in PES 11 was. Tweaking extends to the AI too, so you can specify if it should automatically pass, shoot, or clear the ball when you're not in direct control.
Customisation done, you move onto Training Challenge; a mode that carries over from PES 11 with a few tweaks. There are trophies awarded for each training challenge you complete--bronze, silver, or gold--depending on your performance. For example, one challenge has you taking penalties, with the goal divided up into three sections worth a different amount of points. The more points you score, the better the trophy you receive. Each challenge is divided up into difficulty levels, ranging from one to three stars. This means there's a lot to play through, so if you're the type of person that has to complete everything, expect to spend a lot of time in Training Challenge.
"What do you mean, FIFA sold more?!"
Most of the changes in PES 12 have been made to AI players on the pitch, via improvements to make their actions seem more realistic. The first is AI overlap, which is designed to improve the performance of players off the ball, so long as you've enabled AI assists. As we played the ball to an open area of the pitch, we noticed players running forward to receive it, making intelligent runs that allowed us to set up chances on goal. If you choose not to enable AI assists you're given greater control of players off the ball, allowing you to control two players simultaneously. Doing so is a little fiddly, though, requiring you to highlight another player by pointing the right stick in his direction, and pressing down on it to select him.
While this feature can be very tricky to use out on the open field, it really comes into its own during set pieces such as corners and free kicks. While lining up a corner, we could move another player in the box at the same time, making use of space and ensuring someone was on the receiving end of the ball. Further enhancements have been made to penalties, which are now much simpler to take. One button controls the height and power of the kick, while another controls the direction. By holding down R1, we could perform finesse finishes such as chips, something that would have required well-timed double taps of the analogue stick in PES 11. Also gone is the side-on penalty view, replaced with a more traditional viewpoint in front of the goal.
Various enhancements to dummy and diagonal runs made our time on the pitch more enjoyable, with our AI teammates drawing out defenders and running across the field, rather than just down one side of it. We noticed our defence was tighter too, with players marking the opposition, automatically chasing them down, and launching tackles. This extended to our team's formation. Players maintained position, allowing us to make better judgements and defend our half of the pitch with more confidence. Combined, the AI improvements made each match more enjoyable, with fewer goals conceded from frustrating AI mistakes.
The teams line up for the traditional pre-match River Dance.
While this year's updates aren't entirely revolutionary, they build upon the substantial improvements introduced in PES 11. Matches were smooth, exciting, and a lot of fun, feeling noticeably faster than FIFA. It remains to be seen whether PES can catch up with FIFA's excellent online features, but we were left suitably impressed, making this year's battle between the two football games that little bit closer. Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 is due for release on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC on October 14. Look out for more coverage on GameSpot soon.
http://www.gameplaypress.com/pc/7013...n-preview.html
CROFL I just installed the patches for PES 2011
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I dont know abut pes 11, but in the winning eleven 6/7 (I think pes 3 is the equivalent) version:
- chasing an airborne ball heading out-of-bounds and touching it for no god damned reason without pressing any direction or any other button, hold R1 and R2 to give up on a play- this works regardless of what the ball is doing
- When you tackle a player, his body might just lie in front of you as a barrier until he resumes possession (you can hop over people easily in FIFA 11) tap R2 to hop, works better when you have possession but can also be done w/o the ball (also, if you do it as you are receiving a pass the player will let it go through
- pinpoint clearances that land on the feet of the forward at midfield this sounds more like a specific issue of 11, but in the versions I play, holding L1 anywhere between the two penalty areas will make you crosses work the same as in the crossing zone, allowing you to clear straight to your forwards from almost anywhere on the pitch; the precision depends on the passing player's ratings and position/orientation but you can choose for a high cross by pressing circle once, a mid cross by pressing twice, and a low cross by pressing three times- if you can do the same as the AI, it probably wont feel as cheap. I play with passing style set to type 5, so that crossing with circle is always manual, unless i hold L1 to do automatic crosses and I probably use the automatic crosses more to transition from defense to offense than I do to attack (those I do manual)
I suggest you check the controls on Gamefaqs.com for the version you play to see if you can remedy some of those issues, the chasing the ball out of bounds problem was solved long ago
Apparently the pc demo for PES 2012 is already out, and will be out for PS3 and 360 on Wed.
From what I've read, there will be 2 demos released, one this week, and the next one mid September.
lol Fifa
Link to PC demo: http://www.gamer4eva.com/2011/08/pes...announced.html
The (first) PES 2012 demo had gotten very good reviews on teh internetz
lol Italy
ZOMG PES 12 demo is orgasmic; and that's only the 1st demo
FIFA
FIRST PES 2012 DEMO NOT APPEARING ON XBOX 360
Publisher was unable to resolve issues with Microsoft
Posted by Alex 'The_PC_Gamer' V on Sep 7, 2011 - 11:41am EST (2 hours ago) Fans on Xbox 360 who have been waiting to play the first of two demos for Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 should not hold their breath.
It has been revealed by PES Team Leader via Twitter that the demo won't be appearing on Microsoft's console. "Sorry to confirm that due to issues on both sides we can’t release the 1st PES2012 demo for 360. We’ve tried hard but have to give up," said the message.
No detials of the problem were specified, and it was later added: "We – Konami, the PES team and myself – are all really, really sorry."
There is no word on if the second demo will make it to the service. The first demo was already released on PC and PS3 over a week ago.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 is coming to PC, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3 on September 27th in North America and October in Europe.
OMG
PES 12 is gonna be so ing amazing
Have you tried the second demo??? Holy man. I'm playin on the pitchside camera, -1 game speed, and it's the closest thing to real football i've ever seen. The player movement is ridiculous, you can't just stop and turn directions in an instant.OMG
PES 12 is gonna be so ing amazing
Yep
Got the 2nd demo with a Japanese PSN account
I will try your settings
lol
EA has done it again
They just need to recreate the Torres miss and I would consider this day one.
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