Dirk or David Robinson?

[21_Blessings]

Trolling aside, The Admiral, easily. He was a ridiculous force on both ends of the floor.

There would be no question whatsoever which guy a team would draft if they both came out the same year.

[21_Blessings]

DRob might have not been the choker that Malone really was, but didn't get many chances to prove that either. The series against Hakeem was his only big run before Duncan, and he got thoroughly outplayed in that. That makes it very hard to see him stack up well against other all time greats. Heck, even Ewing had more deep runs than Robinson had.

Getting outplayed by Hakeem isn't relevant to the thread. Dirk was outplayed by Stephen Jackson one series. So what?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If only Dennis Rodman had been more Tyson Chandler and less... Dennis Rodman.

It didn't help that D-Rob chased Rodman around with a bible.

[Findog]

Dirk has evolved into a decent defender. He will NEVER make the All Defensive team, but anybody who says he is an absolute zero on the defensive end doesn't know what the he's talking about.

I agree Robinson was elite on both ends of the floor and a team would draft him over Dirk if they had the choice of them as 21 year olds.

[21_Blessings]

32 year old Robinson was better than 32 year old Dirk too. D-Rob was still a DPOY type talent at the time and and an efficient 20ppg+ scorer. His brilliant work on Shaq in 99 is proof as much

But I imagine Dirk's game will age much better given his perimeter preference and style. So he can easily make up some ground on the back-end of his career.

[21_Blessings]

Basically, if I'm Pop/Cuban:

I'm drafting David.

Given the signing choice of Dirk/Admiral at 26, I'm going with David again. Mainly because adding a guy like that instantly makes you a top 10 defensive team. You could surround him with a bunch of mid-level guys and still have an effective D.

Both are free agents at 31 and want a 5 year deal, I'll go with Dirk. Historically guys like Robinson do not age gracefully and once they lose that spring, their effectiveness declines dramatically. With Dirk, his jumper isn't going to leave him with age and he'll still be able to get his shot over most anyone with his unique build and skill set. His triple threat work is one of the best I've ever seen for a player his size.

[my2sons]

Well Dirk was the best player on a championship team, something Robinson cannot say.

On the other hand, Robinson was dominant on both ends and had the misfortune of playing during Jordan and Hakeem's prime.

last time i checked drob got two rings and the is something dirk cannot say

[GoodOdor]

last time i checked drob got two rings and the is something dirk cannot say

Drob failed again and again as a number 1 option. Dirk won his ring as the clear cut number 1 on his team.

1 ring+finals mvp>2 rings as a side kick.

[Blackjack]

One can only imagine what a prime Dave would have accomplished with the benefit of competent coaching and a Cuban payroll.

Dave may be the most underrated player - elite player - ever.

[ernest787]

as previous posters have already stated it's hard to compare the 2 based on rings and number 1 options status, because Drob never had the supporting cast that Dirk had around him.

[GoodOdor]

One can only imagine what a prime Dave would have accomplished with the benefit of competent coaching and a Cuban payroll.

Dave may be the most underrated player - elite player - ever.

Dave had the teams and the coaching to win it all - he was a choker.

Interesting that his stats, unlike with other greats, went down in the post season....instead of up.

It probably had to do he was a face up player - much easier to plan an effective D against someone like that that, say, Duncan.

That being said, he was an excellent D player for pretty much all of his career, and that should count for something.

[GoodOdor]

as previous posters have already stated it's hard to compare the 2 based on rings and number 1 options status, because Drob never had the supporting cast that Dirk had around him.

Revisionist history. He was the number 1 seed in 95.....

[ernest787]

40 Willie Anderson
23 Corey Crowder
34 Terry mings
15 Vinny Del Negro
1 Howard Eisley
32 Sean Elliott
54 Jack Haley
6 Avery Johnson
2 Moses Malone
00 Julius Nwosu
45 Chuck Person
7 J.R. Reid
25 Doc Rivers
50 David Robinson
10 Dennis Rodman

STACKED... lol

[Blackjack]

Dave had the teams and the coaching to win it all - he was a choker.

Interesting that his stats, unlike with other greats, went down in the post season....instead of up.

It probably had to do he was a face up player - much easier to plan an effective D against someone like that that, say, Duncan.

That being said, he was an excellent D player for pretty much all of his career, and that should count for something.

Yeah ... you probably should have just left it alone. Awful take. Truly.

[GoodOdor]

Yeah ... you probably should have just left it alone. Awful take. Truly.

Let's hear your Drob>Hakeem take, spurfan.

[Blackjack]

Let's hear your Drob>Hakeem take, spurfan.

I'm me, you're you. Leave it alone.

[GoodOdor]

Don't bad talk classy Drob, he was such a nice guy

[Blackjack]

You're you.

[4>0rings]

Who would you rank higher all time?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If Dirk chased Tyson Chandler around with a bible, chances are the Mavs would have won as many championships as the 1995 Spurs.

[DMC]

The fact that this question didn't come up last week is all the answer you need. The ring does not make Dirk better this week than he was last week.

[DMC]

If Dirk chased Tyson Chandler around with a bible, chances are the Mavs would have won as many championships as the 1995 Spurs.

True

[GoodOdor]

The fact that this question didn't come up last week is all the answer you need. The ring does not make Dirk better this week than he was last week.

Wow, what a ty take. So a finals mvp and a ring doesn't bump someone up the all time great list?

[Sean Cagney]

In his prime as a youngin D ROB easily! Dirk is that dude though no hate at all! David was just special though, he could get 28 ppg and 11 rebounds and 3 blocks a game! He was all round.

[Dr House]

The fact that this question didn't come up last week is all the answer you need. The ring does not make Dirk better this week than he was last week.

lol all of a sudden rings mean nothing now

isn't this the same fanbase that wants to put Duncan over Kobe because of rings as a 1st option but will completely downplay it, if it helps the Dirk>Robinson argument crofl