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    They need a backup PG whether or not they trade Hill though. In the worst case I'm ok with giving Neal 10 minutes a night at the position, especially considering he doesn't get destroyed every time he defends a pick and roll like Hill does.
    It should be fine with Manu being on the court when Neal is the backup PG. Without Hill, I woudl start Parker with James Anderson and have Neal with Manu in the second unit.

    Another option I like is signing Earl Watson as a free agent. His main edge is that he should be cheap.

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    I agree..Dont think they would be able to get Valanciunas with a mid to late lotto pick but it should net them Motiejunas.
    Look at teams in TOP 7. They are tired of losing every game . They need players to improve their rosters right now. Only Jazz could wait a year for players. If Jazz take PG at 3, and Jimmer at 12, I could see Valanciunas dropping to 8-11 pick.

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    I've been saying this for a while already.

    Many posters on this board where worried about Spurs not having enough money for Hill when his contract expired. I thought it would be idiotic to invest in him when the Spurs resigned Tony Parker.

    It makes a lot of sense to deal Hill as his rookie deal is about to be over (I don't think Spurs would be happy paying 7 plus million per year for a back-up point/shooting guard). It's wise to go ahead and move him now to get a valuable high pick, which will be a cheap option as well from a salary perspective.

    Smart move by the Spurs if this transpires.

    And this free's up minutes for Neal and Anderson as well, who both can fill in the productive void left by Hill.
    Not to mention that Hill is the exact type of player that will get overpaid in his first free agency. Makes a lot of sense to move him due to redundancy and future costs.

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    It should be fine with Manu being on the court when Neal is the backup PG. Without Hill, I woudl start Parker with James Anderson and have Neal with Manu in the second unit.

    Another option I like is signing Earl Watson as a free agent. His main edge is that he should be cheap.
    I like Watson too, though his ridiculous alley-oop skills would be lost on the Spurs (seriously, this guy used to throw 2 or 3 alley-oops from midcourt every game when he was at UCLA).

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    You think the buyout on Valaciunas is going to scare anyone away when the draft class is so weak and there may not be a season next year anyways? Teams would be crazy to not swing for the fences this year.
    It scared a lot of team with Splitter that was in a similar option. A lot of GMs are on the fence and using a lottery pick on a player who won't help the next year isn't easy to do. Spurs have the edge of having a stability in their FO.

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    Even if 10-12 turn the Spurs down, if their target slides the Spurs might be able to flip Hill to Indiana at 15. Hometown kid, still cheap and with a couple of years on his deal, doesn't hurt their cap for this summer or next, and can play a nice role for them.

    Hill is more proven than anyone at 15, and maybe Singleton or Montiejunas slides there.

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    It scared a lot of team with Splitter that was in a similar option. A lot of GMs are on the fence and using a lottery pick on a player who won't help the next year isn't easy to do. Spurs have the edge of having a stability in their FO.
    I hope so. If they turn Hill into an A-level prospect that would really be something. Even a B-level prospect like Thompson would be pretty nice though.

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    Spurs, while I'm sure they like Hill just fine have already agreed to trade him once (deal with the Clippers that fell through). As others have alluded to, it's not that Hill isn't productive, but that the benefit of getting a SF who is productive outweighs keeping a better overall talent when we have other talent stacked up.

    We will see if this materializes. Hill has already proven himself in the NBA somewhat so if the Spurs are serious about moving him for a lotto pick, it shouldn't be hard in this draft.

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    When I read reports about Kanter going #2, I have no doubt that, without his buyout issues, Valanciunas would have been drafted #2. He is that good.

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    When I read reports about Kanter going #2, I have no doubt that, without his buyout issues, Valanciunas would have been drafted #2. He is that good.
    If Minnesota takes Kanter with their #2 pick then they're just ing lazy with their draft positioning.

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    The Spurs should definitely go after Singleton, I haven't seen him play but he's a huge SF at 6'9 230, and from what I've read he's a lock defender and is very athletic. He'd be perfect for the Spurs, sounds like he could turn into a Ron Artest type player.

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    Singleton is the type of player we badly needed after Bowen left. Not sure that's who we'd go for, however.

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    I've been saying this for a while already.

    Many posters on this board where worried about Spurs not having enough money for Hill when his contract expired. I thought it would be idiotic to invest in him when the Spurs resigned Tony Parker.

    It makes a lot of sense to deal Hill as his rookie deal is about to be over (I don't think Spurs would be happy paying 7 plus million per year for a back-up point/shooting guard). It's wise to go ahead and move him now to get a valuable high pick, which will be a cheap option as well from a salary perspective.

    Smart move by the Spurs if this transpires.

    And this free's up minutes for Neal and Anderson as well, who both can fill in the productive void left by Hill.
    Not to mention that Hill is the exact type of player that will get overpaid in his first free agency. Makes a lot of sense to move him due to redundancy and future costs.
    Neal, Anderson and potently Green and Butler.
    A lot of depth at the 2 spot along with Manu.
    This makes a lot of sense
    I like the kid, but he is a classic tweener.

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    This is the worst thing the Spurs front office has ever done. This year's draft prospects are among the weakest in NBA history, none of them are game changers, none of them have even proven themselves to be effective role players. Hill's mental disadvantages are a mundane problem that can be fixed.

    Oh yeah, I know Pop wants that 7 foot floor spreader from Italy, so he can find another reason not to give Splitter minutes.

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    It should be fine with Manu being on the court when Neal is the backup PG. Without Hill, I woudl start Parker with James Anderson and have Neal with Manu in the second unit.

    Another option I like is signing Earl Watson as a free agent. His main edge is that he should be cheap.
    Co-signed.

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    There are some rumors in French medias about Batum being traded on draft day. I like the idea of a trade around Batum for Hill.

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    There are some rumors in French medias about Batum being traded on draft day. I like the idea of a trade around Batum for Hill.
    Wouldn't that be massively ironic.

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    you know it's a sad draft when ppl are just throwing random names around


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    who the Spurs are kidding, George Hill is insignificant player, teams know that and i doubt if even a late first round pick they could get out of him, he is not a good player!

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    I'm sure it all comes back to getting rid of Jefferson. Don't see the Spurs making any significant move unless he is involved IMO.

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    Spurs getting Singleton for Hill would make my offseason...Hill is absolutley replaceable, and would mean spurs can get either Bertans or Mirotic, and wait 2 years or so without spurs fans mad about us getting a international player. A Singleton and Anderson SF and SG duo would be huge for the future.

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    Package Hill and RJ for a lottery pick and select Singleton/Thompson or Vucevic.

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    I like Watson too, though his ridiculous alley-oop skills would be lost on the Spurs (seriously, this guy used to throw 2 or 3 alley-oops from midcourt every game when he was at UCLA).
    We have one bewildered player on our roster that could use 2 to 3 alley oops to not be considered useless.

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    It has been my understanding that Valanciunas would not be available for the Spurs to buyout until 2012-2013 (although, I suppose that isn't set in stone). If the Spurs are truly trying to move into position to draft him, are they forsaking success in Duncan's remaining year(s), or are they hoping to remain relevant while planning for a future without #21?

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    As much as I like Hill, the truth is that he's redundant. If the Spurs have a target they love in the lottery, I wouldn't be against a trade involving Hill.

    Although, that said, I doubt any trade of Hill for a rookie makes the Spurs a better team next year. It's rare for Pop to trust a rookie ... and even if he does, it's rare for a rookie to play well in the playoffs.

    I'd trade Hill but let's not pretend the Spurs will be better off in the short-term because of such a deal.

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