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    Because the deadline is also in the player contract.
    So is getting paid, but you won't see that happening during a lockout.

    Can't say I'm worried about this one.

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    With trading Hill and everything you hear from all people around the league, the Spurs are high on Anderson. IMO there is nothing at all to worry about.

    I can't believe Dice would risk the limited portion of his contract however. That is very strange to me. Perhaps, he and the Spurs have some sort of continued "gentleman's agreement".

    I also wonder if the Spurs move him tonight?

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    So is getting paid, but you won't see that happening during a lockout.

    Can't say I'm worried about this one.
    Apples and oranges.

    Do you realize that a lot of teams have picked options for their first round pick. Why would they do that if picking the option after the lockout was an option?

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    Apples and oranges.
    How?

    You just said it was in the player contract. So is being paid. It's all part of the contract.

    Do you realize that a lot of teams have picked options for their first round pick. Why would they do that if picking the option after the lockout was an option?
    Because they can and want to pick up the option on those players now. That happens every year, does it not?

    And why would the owners lock themselves out of their unilateral decision to pick up an option on a player?

    Doesn't make much sense.

    I'll believe some media write up about this business if someone links it.

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    it doesn't matter that it makes sense or not.

    Fact is that tons of options have been picked up this month. Do you really think owners woudl have committed to spending more money withotu a good reason to do it?

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    it doesn't matter that it makes sense or not.

    Fact is that tons of options have been picked up this month. Do you really think owners woudl have committed to spending more money withotu a good reason to do it?
    As I said, show me a link explaining what owners are locking themselves out of and I'll believe it. I'm not just arguing to argue.

    It's not like rookie option years are bank breakers.

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    As I said, show me a link explaining what owners are locking themselves out of and I'll believe it. I'm not just arguing to argue.

    It's not like rookie option years are bank breakers.
    It sure seems you are just arguing to argue.

    Most of the rookies have had their options picked in June while it usually happen during the training camp. That's a quite conclusive evidence that options must be picked before the lockout.

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    It sure seems you are just arguing to argue.
    Not really.

    Most of the rookies have had their options picked in June while it usually happen during the training camp. That's a quite conclusive evidence that options must be picked before the lockout.
    I've seen options picked up early before. If you could compare and contrast the number of options picked up, I'd be more inclined to believe you -- though I'd still want to see explicitly stated how and why the owners locked themselves out of making business decisions someplace other than a message board.

    In am by no means saying I am 100% right and I fully accept the possibility you are 100% right. I just want confirmation because it really doesn't seem logical.

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    I only found this article that mentions something about that.

    It says that during the last lockout, teams were granted short extensions to the deadlines to be able to pick up options. I guess some teams and players felt they didn't want the uncertainty.

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    I've seen options picked up early before. If you could compare and contrast the number of options picked up, I'd be more inclined to believe you -- though I'd still want to see it explicitly stated someplace other than a message board.
    A quick search gave at least 38 options picked for first round picks.
    It isn't a marginal effect.

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    A quick search gave at least 38 options picked for first round picks.
    It isn't a marginal effect.
    Compared to what?

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    The widely expected lockout likely will push the Bulls' decision date on Keith Bogans' team option of $1.728 million back from July 10.

    That date is nine days after when free agency is scheduled to begin if there is not a lockout. During the NBA's last work stoppage before the 1998-99 season, teams were granted the same amount of time to make such decisions once the new collective bargaining agreement was settled.


    From here

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    The widely expected lockout likely will push the Bulls' decision date on Keith Bogans' team option of $1.728 million back from July 10.

    That date is nine days after when free agency is scheduled to begin if there is not a lockout. During the NBA's last work stoppage before the 1998-99 season, teams were granted the same amount of time to make such decisions once the new collective bargaining agreement was settled.


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    That makes more sense to me. Using that as a guide, the option would be able to be picked up around the end of whatever training camp teams end up having/beginning of the regular season.
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    Compared to the amount of players whose option could have been picked up.

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    Compared to the amount of players whose option could have been picked up.
    A more apt comparison would be the numbers of options picked up early in previous years.

    Thanks if you choose to look that up. Seems like it would be an ass pain.

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    A more apt comparison would be the numbers of options picked up early in previous years.

    Thanks if you choose to look that up. Seems like it would be an ass pain.
    Last year, the first option was picked on September 24

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    Thanks. Still have no reason to believe owners would forbid themselves from extending a deadline like they have in the past.

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    While I think owners can push back deadlines to pick up options, players would have to agree with that. They could have made the reasoning that it's easier to pick options before July than having to negotiate something more in CBA talks, even if it's just a detail.

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    True enough, though I can't imagine why players would want to give away the chance for union members to make more than the minimum along with the potential to make more since they wouldn't be starting their Bird year clock again (of course that can change, but who knows right now?). OTOH I can see the owners setting their current expenses in stone early so they can make more concrete projections and base their offers on that, at the same time reassuring players that they will be wanted after this deal is finally reached. I just haven't seen anyone saying it will be impossible to pick up a rookie option after tonight.

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    Anderson is going into his 2nd year of his rookie deal, I thought team options on such deals became an issue before the 3rd year. No?

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    I hope they do pick up Anderson's option prior to 11:01 or whenever it is.

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    Anderson is going into his 2nd year of his rookie deal, I thought team options on such deals became an issue before the 3rd year. No?
    No. The year 3 option is picked up between year 1 and year 2, and the year 4 option is picked up between year 2 and year 3.

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    No. The year 3 option is picked up between year 1 and year 2, and the year 4 option is picked up between year 2 and year 3.
    Cool, thanks.

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    It looks like Spurs haven't picked Anderson's option. I hope they will be able to do it at the end of the lockout.

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    It looks like Spurs haven't picked Anderson's option. I hope they will be able to do it at the end of the lockout.
    Timetable for the Spurs blogs to trawl this forum per usual and throw up a post about it?

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