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    even Ronald Reagan raised taxes when he needed to do so.
    Liberal blog!

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    "Look, he owns the economy," McConnell said. "We refuse to let him entice us into co-ownership of a bad economy."
    That was one of the most baggiest things I have heard in a long time.

    All the blame for the bad economy, but you can bet your sweet ass that if it were going great, he would be claiming credit.

    This jackass is just as responsible as the executive branch for both bad and good.

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    That was one of the most baggiest things I have heard in a long time.

    All the blame for the bad economy, but you can bet your sweet ass that if it were going great, he would be claiming credit.

    This jackass is just as responsible as the executive branch for both bad and good.
    We agree

    It's OUR economy.

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    But it's the criminal casino Banksters' Great Depression

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    I'm sorry - I know the Dems aren't very good - but they can't even hold a candle to this ing GOP in terms of absolute idiocy.

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    They'll bend over and sign the dotted line once they're done with the dog and pony show.

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    I'm afraid they won't. There's at least a sizeable risk of that at this point. And that in and of itself - when dealing with credit - is a bad thing.

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    Since 06 when the Dems made the Pay-Go promise, have they actually done it once? They have been in power and overspent time and time again. Now everyone thinks the answer is to just increase the debt ceiling? this is ridiculous. Make the cuts now! I like Eric Cantor's position. If Obama wants to make a deal, he needs to talk to the real leader of the Republicans-Cantor. Instead of storming out of the meeting without answering his questions. IMO

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    Cantor turned down 4 trillion in cuts.

    4 trillion in cuts.

    4,000,000,000,000 in cuts.

    Thats a lot of cuts.

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    Hey I havterrible internet here. Can you give me the link of the breakdown from 4 trillion. i've been out of the loop.

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    lol Cantor

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    U.S. Republicans to pursue scaled-back deficit reduction in debt talks
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    WASHINGTON, July 9 (Xinhua) -- U.S. House Speaker John Boehner on Saturday rejected a 4-trillion-dollar deficit reduction deal with the White House, saying he would pursue a "smaller measure" in Sunday's upcoming talks at the White House.

    "Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes," Boehner said in a statement released Saturday night.

    Boehner said he believes "the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure, based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations, that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of any debt limit increase."

    The White House is negotiating with congressional leaders on a deal to raise the 14.29-trillion-dollar debt ceiling, it also involves cutting the federal budget deficit. The White House has proposed an ambitious plan to cut budget deficit by 4 trillion over 10 years, in exchange for closing some tax loopholes.

    Boehner's statement means the two sides will focus on a scaled-back option of cutting 2 trillion deficit. White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer on Budget Negotiations put out a statement saying "we cannot ask the middle-class and seniors to bear all the burden of higher costs and budget cuts. We need a balanced approach that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well."

    The parties are due to attend talks Sunday in the White House. Pfeiffer said come Sunday, President Barack Obama "will make the case to congressional leaders that we must reject the politics of least resistance and take on this critical challenge."

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    What the GOP wants is to have this debt dog and pony show every 6 months all the way to the elections... They already got away with it once in March. They don't care about cuts or the limit. Cantor is the GOP's Pelosi, tbh.

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    Cantor turned down 4 trillion in cuts.

    4 trillion in cuts.

    4,000,000,000,000 in cuts.

    Thats a lot of cuts.
    All Cantor had to do was STFU and go along. Republicans would have gotten to brag about getting the largest package of spending cuts ever, with only having given up some corporate jet tax loopholes in return. Obama would have had to go explain to his base how he just gave away the largest package of spending cuts ever, with only having gotten some corporate tax loopholes in return. It was a clear win for the Republicans, but no. Cantor had to it all up for them.

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    What the GOP wants is to have this debt dog and pony show every 6 months all the way to the elections... They already got away with it once in March. They don't care about cuts or the limit. Cantor is the GOP's Pelosi, tbh.
    Bull , TBH. If Pelosi had gotten a shot at the Liberal equivalent of those cuts she would have taken it. Look at what she did with Obamacare. It was't perfect but she got down to business when she needed to. Cantor is a ing idiot.

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    Cantor seems incapable of accepting 'yes' for an answer.

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    Bull , TBH. If Pelosi had gotten a shot at the Liberal equivalent of those cuts she would have taken it. Look at what she did with Obamacare. It was't perfect but she got down to business when she needed to. Cantor is a ing idiot.
    Pelosi wouldn't pass up some political grandstanding even if her life depended on it. And she did what she did with Obamacare because she had the majority of the chamber. That's exactly what Cantor and the GOP are doing.

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    BTW, Cantor's proposal is to have the ceiling raised for 3 months and have talks again. It's not that he's opposing raising the ceiling. He's opposed to a longer term deal.

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    I dont' give a about political grandstanding as ALL politicians do that. My point is that she was handed a sandwich from the Senate regarding the bill - especially when you consider what the house had passed - and she didn't sit there and pout and reject it. She worked on it and passed it. She handled the house extremely well.

    When Cantor does that, then you can compare him to Pelosi. For now he's just doing jack but stalling and hurting everyone involved in a debate where the stakes are even higher than the health care law.

    Its the popular "centrist" thing to hate on Pelosi, but she's actually one of a pragmatic politician when she has to be.

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    All Cantor had to do was STFU and go along. Republicans would have gotten to brag about getting the largest package of spending cuts ever, with only having given up some corporate jet tax loopholes in return. Obama would have had to go explain to his base how he just gave away the largest package of spending cuts ever, with only having gotten some corporate tax loopholes in return. It was a clear win for the Republicans, but no. Cantor had to it all up for them.
    If there were exact details. the 4 trillion was just future promised cuts. If Obama wanted to truely cut back he would start with any one of his cash cow social experiements. He wasn't serious and is wanting this as much politically as you are saying cantor did.

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    Anytime a politician says we have to act now; that it's an emergency- hold on to your wallets.

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    I dont' give a about political grandstanding as ALL politicians do that. My point is that she was handed a sandwich from the Senate regarding the bill - especially when you consider what the house had passed - and she didn't sit there and pout and reject it. She worked on it and passed it. She handled the house extremely well.

    When Cantor does that, then you can compare him to Pelosi. For now he's just doing jack but stalling and hurting everyone involved in a debate where the stakes are even higher than the health care law.

    Its the popular "centrist" thing to hate on Pelosi, but she's actually one of a pragmatic politician when she has to be.
    You're comparing Apples and Oranges. Pelosi pulled through using her majority a law that the administration of the same party wanted. In that instance she had shown leadership and that she had full control of the majority.
    If you want to pat her in the back for 'getting stuff done' when the administration is the opposing party, then you have to tap her in the back for not opposing the TARP and getting that done.

    What Cantor is doing though, is undermining Boehner's leadership. Boehner was ready to sign off on the debt-limit negotiated with Biden but Cantor and his cronies won't budge, in another 'leadership' dog and pony show.

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    If there were exact details. the 4 trillion was just future promised cuts. If Obama wanted to truely cut back he would start with any one of his cash cow social experiements. He wasn't serious and is wanting this as much politically as you are saying cantor did.
    Obama said he was willing to take the heat on en lement reform...he already has gone along with raising the age of eligibility for SS and some modifications to Medicare. You really need to catch up on what is being said by each side before you start opining.

    You are a bit behind in the facts area.

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    If there were exact details. the 4 trillion was just future promised cuts. If Obama wanted to truely cut back he would start with any one of his cash cow social experiements. He wasn't serious and is wanting this as much politically as you are saying cantor did.
    Boehner thought the cuts were legit, as he negotiated them with Obama. What Boehner didn't like was the proposed tax hikes.

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    lol Toros janitor

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