What are the positions of the other UC departments, especially the ones that receive a lot of funding? You'll probably find the same bureaucratic labyrinth.
If your customers want something you give it to them.
This is a basic free market tenet.
Darrin is unable to say what the customers of this university want, because he can't tell you how many degrees of what kind the university gave out last year.
But Darrin wants to say that the university is ill serving its students/customers.
Did I get that right?
Other than a tirade ing on what's being spent on diversity programs (and really no concise explanation that there's an actual problem with that allocation), I don't see her showing there's any wrongdoing. There's hints of wasteful spending, but this is coming from somebody that shows her hand early being dismissive about the usefulness of any such programs.
Talk about Narcissism...
Darrin bemoaning the loss of comparative literature masters degrees?it also eliminated a master’s program in comparative literature and courses in French, German, Spanish, and English literature.
This just gets better and better.
To help Darrin's lazy ass:
http://www.ucsd.edu/explore/about/facts.html
http://www.jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/grad/facts.shtml
Governor Condemns ‘Intolerable Acts of Racism’ at UCSD
Some incidents there caused a furore it seems culminating in a diversity report:
http://senate.ucsd.edu/FrontPageDocs...sDiversity.pdf
The report recommends taking some actions to increase diversity, probably to avoid getting successfully sued.
Looked through the Academic Senate meeting minutes.
http://senate.ucsd.edu/ (main page)
There are a number of reports here that might back up the claim in the OP that the engineering department has scaled back masters programs, but the two mentioned in the OP
are still listed as available on the website:
http://www.jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/academic/masters.shtml
Couldn't find the author's claims in the March Senate meeting minutes, and couldn't confirm the claims at the Jacob's School of Engineering graduate degree section of their website.Computer Science and Engineering Department
•Computer Engineering ( M.S.)
•Computer Science ( M.S.)
•Wireless Embedded Systems (M.A.S.) offered in conjunction with the department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Electrical and Computer Engineering Department
•Wireless Embedded Systems (M.A.S.) offered in conjunction with the department of Computer Science and Engineering
•Electrical Engineering (M.S. or M.Eng.) with Specialization in
Applied Ocean Sciences (no M.Eng.)
Applied Optics and Photonics
Communication Theory and Systems
Computer Engineering
Electronic Circuits and Systems
Electronic Devices and Materials
Intelligent Systems, Robotics and Control
Signal and Image Processing
Darrin?
What else you got, punk?
By the way, if anybody is a total statistics nerd, the formula for allocating block grants between the departments there is definitely for you:
http://senate.ucsd.edu/FrontPageDocs...tteeReport.pdf
Holy .
I did get the impression that engineering students were expensive to produce, relative to say, literature grads.
Cut higher education funding at your peril. IMO.
Deplorable acts of racism. Indeed
http://elvisnixon.com/2010/03/06/jig...n-cookout.aspx
lol left out the rest of what was said on The Koala.
You do actually have a point. If this is what college students in CA want (why am I not surprised?), then this is what they should offer. There will be other market forces at work when they graduate. I doubt there are many career fields that have a demand for that particular "skill set" other than the diversity admin positions in the UC system.
sure, cuz there are no gay bizness owners in this world.
I highly doubt that someone who completes a rigorous program in an area based in critical thinking and various areas of theory would be qualified for only administrative positions, but I have little interest in expending the time and/or energy necessary to look up hiring statistics and will therefore let that bit slide.
That said, just because it's not a job you would want, personally, does not mean that it's not a position of value. I have no desire to be a doctor, so I chose not to pursue medicine. Someone who doesn't want to work as a diversity admin is similarly not being forced to either enroll in a Women's Studies course or to attend UCSD.
Disclaimer: I'm a born and bred Californian currently pursuing an MA in Art History and who completed undergrad with a minor in Multicultural Studies. Feel free to completely disregard anything I have to say on this subj... well, let's be honest, about anything.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read and a total insult to gay people.
thats cuz you think all these people will only acquire meaningless task positions in life.
how many of them do you think will have meaningless patents?
I know a gay man who owns a software company. Very smart dude. No way in he hires someone from one of those fields.
Well, no. He'd likely hire someone who specialized in computers. Unless he's a poor businessman.
Arguing for the of it? Or are you actually trying to make the point that degrees in so called diversity studies are worthless because someone who got one wouldn't be able to land a job in the sciences fresh out of college?
This is ridiculous. Misuse of tax payer's money as well as resources. Hopefully when most of So Cal makes their own state, this kind of nonsense will stop.
Geezus, are we defending bull diversity curriculum to spite darrin, this is stupidity at its' finest.
You have no real reason to back this bull con work of a field. Diversity studies, lick my balls. Learn that on your own dime.
But raising taxes to pay for this , this.
It's better for these people to learn better more important liberal arts rather than ing diversity . Philosophy is way better and more useful if you're gonna get a degree that doesn't pay back.
They are worthless because they are a waste of energy and time. They don't enlighten, infact they dumbdown our youth who take these courses, and worst of all they learn multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism is evil only because it holds that values are objectively zero.
You're a dumbass. It's laughable to suggest that UCSD is a free market agent.
I had some hope for some of you here. Even tho we disagreed, i can see that at least the lot of you were rational. I can't say that anymore. It's ridiculous how much you would all say the sky was green in order to spite Darrin. If darrin says 2+2=4, you all feel compelled to argue otherwise. This forum has gone to and it has nothing to do with NbaDan, boutons, or Darrin.
All those layers of bureaucracy don't go onto a students transcripts or degree. They aren't points to help recruit students. They don't help the student's degree from this college hold more value than another. None of it creates a product in any way that creates compe ion; and through that price wars or quality improvements. There is nothing about the free market that involves this.
Whether diversity programs at the college level have a value or not can probably discussed ad nauseum. I'm actually not that well informed in that area and there seems to be other posters here that are, so I'll pass on that discussion.
The way that rant reads, however, is that she basically disagrees with the overall distribution of funds on the college as a whole, and uses that program as the scapegoat that embodies that. In that sense, her take comes across more as rant than actual investigative journalism. An in-depth look at overall wasteful spending would probably be able to identify such abuses of discretion across the board, IMO, without needing to single out any one activity in particular.
why is thread in the political forum?
gtown laments the discourse in the political forum.
How many diversity courses did you take in college? How can you speak to their efficacy or application?
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