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    Yeah, right! There's lots of excess water in the Colorado River, wastefully being dumped into the Pacific. The Rocky Mountain snow fall is more abundant than ever!!

    What if we asked the farmers to pay the same price for Colorado river water as San Diego pays? Some of these decades-old water agreements, like the ones for TX rice farmers using river water, need to be renegotiatiated. Really, does water-intensive rice farming in semi-desertic, drought-stricken TX make any sense now that we now water TX water is a diminishing resource?

    We know from the loss of ice cap in the Arctic that ice reflects energy back into space, while exposed water retains it. I suppose the white, light colored DV desert reflects solar energy also, so flooding it would probably capture more of it.

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    We know from the loss of ice cap in the Arctic that ice reflects energy back into space, while exposed water retains it. I suppose the white, light colored DV desert reflects solar energy also, so flooding it would probably capture more of it.
    Yes, flooding it would capture slightly more heat than than sand does. Sand is already a pretty absorptive material though of solar heat though.

    You see, I think a large inland lake or sea would capture this solar energy and create more precipitation in the surrounding region, reverting much of the desert to usable land. Possible fix some water shortage issues with more rainfall.

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    Wow. What a bunch of immature heads you guys are. As if there aren't a miriad of geoenineering proposals out there aimed at halting so-called "climate change".

    3:00 into this one

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    Discovery Channel had a short-lived series on this same issue

    http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/project-...ighlights.html

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    OMHO, these geoengineering projects, however well intended, have too many unknown consequences.

    And they may only be as effective at stopping climate change as these people are effective at saving whales.


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    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Death+...453979&t=p&z=8

    DV is not very big compared to the surrounding desert wasteland. I don't think evaporation from Lake Wild Cobra would be enough difference. Moot because there's not enough water to do it.

    I saw a program on DV. It get rain every 40 or 50 years. But when there is rain, always a little, the desert plants, flowers, grasses, explode for a day or two. Their seeds are very hardy and last decades without water. Sorta like bermuda grass.

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    Wow. What a bunch of immature heads you guys are. As if there aren't a miriad of geoenineering proposals out there aimed at halting so-called "climate change".

    3:00 into this one
    How many are there to flood a desert basin?

    Most of those proposals are pretty stupid too, in any event. Just not as stupid as trying to flood a dry desert basin.

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    Yeah, right! There's lots of excess water in the Colorado River, wastefully being dumped into the Pacific. The Rocky Mountain snow fall is more abundant than ever!!

    What if we asked the farmers to pay the same price for Colorado river water as San Diego pays? Some of these decades-old water agreements, like the ones for TX rice farmers using river water, need to be renegotiatiated. Really, does water-intensive rice farming in semi-desertic, drought-stricken TX make any sense now that we now water TX water is a diminishing resource?

    We know from the loss of ice cap in the Arctic that ice reflects energy back into space, while exposed water retains it. I suppose the white, light colored DV desert reflects solar energy also, so flooding it would probably capture more of it.
    That river doesn't even reach the Pacific anymore. Hoover, Glen Canyon, and all the other damns on that river in the US have made sure of that.

    Completely agree about water prices though. Pheonix and Las Vegas are ing horrible examples of how our society wastes so badly. Those two cities have no business being where they are.

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    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Death+...453979&t=p&z=8

    DV is not very big compared to the surrounding desert wasteland. I don't think evaporation from Lake Wild Cobra would be enough difference. Moot because there's not enough water to do it.

    I saw a program on DV. It get rain every 40 or 50 years. But when there is rain, always a little, the desert plants, flowers, grasses, explode for a day or two. Their seeds are very hardy and last decades without water. Sorta like bermuda grass.
    Evaporation would certainly be a huge issue. The evaporation off Lake Mead is already at huge numbers. The evaporation off of Lake Wild Cobra would be even worse so then you'd need a source of water equivilant of the Colorado River to replenish it on a regular basis.

    LOL Darrin calling us immature over this. LOL

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    yes, flooding it would capture slightly more heat than than sand does. Sand is already a pretty absorptive material though of solar heat though.

    You see, i think a large inland lake or sea would capture this solar energy and create more precipitation in the surrounding region, reverting much of the desert to usable land. Possible fix some water shortage issues with more rainfall.
    lol?

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    LOL WC saying he understands climate sciences. I guess there are no Lake Wild Cobra (lol boutons - genius naming) blog graphics for him to copy and post here.

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    Las Vegas red-state NV exists because of the government's overreaching socialistic stimulus of Hoover dam.

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    How about if every American scraped out their freezer and we dumped it all to create the Death Valley Glacier?

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    What if we flooded Death Valley?
    With what water?

    Would the new inland sea have enough surface area to make a dramatic climate change?
    Enough to change a 150 inch/year evaporation rate?

    Doubtful.

    Any thought by the educated climatologists among us?
    Manny thinks the idea sucks.

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    What if we slowed down the rotation of the iron in the core of the planet to weaken the magnetic field? Then the solar wind could blow all the CO2 away.
    What a re ed idea. Did you not see The Core?

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    Damn. That would take more water than the Superdome...

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    Really, what do you think used to be in Death Valley in the past?



    Somebody can shop "Wild Cobra" over the word "Manly" in the picture.

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    On the other hand, the fact that it dried up is proof that climate change occurred in the past so that if its happening today it can't be because of CO2.

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    What a re ed idea. Did you not see The Core?
    Nah, I'll leave that for people like WC who love science fiction but not science nonfiction.

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    With what water?

    Enough to change a 150 inch/year evaporation rate?
    Evaporation is what I'm counting on to reform the desert region climate. Create precipitation in the area. It would be a massive project, probably require tunnels and channels from the Pacific Ocean.

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    On the other hand, the fact that it dried up is proof that climate change occurred in the past so that if its happening today it can't be because of CO2.
    That's probably the entire purpose of the thread.

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    I think I successfully pulled this off on SimCity2000. Definitely doable.

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    Evaporation is what I'm counting on to reform the desert region climate. Create precipitation in the area. It would be a massive project, probably require tunnels and channels from the Pacific Ocean.
    Ask Manny what a virga is.

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    You would have thought all the swimming pools in Vegas and Phoenix could have turned the areas around them into rain forests by now according to WC logic.

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