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    I don't understand why evolution and intelligent design have to be mutually exclusive.

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    I don't understand why evolution and intelligent design have to be mutually exclusive.

    We don't teach the bible in public schools genious.. I wonder what Islam has to say about how the world was created. Should we include that possibilty as well?

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    I don't understand why evolution and intelligent design have to be mutually exclusive.
    Are they?

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    Now thinking about it..evolution theory has holes ..so I wonder if aliens created the earth? why can't that be taught in schools? There's a lot we don't know...so let's just teach that aliens could have possibly done it..

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    I don't understand why evolution and intelligent design have to be mutually exclusive.
    Because one is a falsifiable scientific theory and the other is not?

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    We don't teach the bible in public schools genious.. I wonder what Islam has to say about how the world was created. Should we include that possibilty as well?
    Genious? Lol

    And intelligent design is not religion-specific.

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    I don't understand why evolution and intelligent design have to be mutually exclusive.
    They don't have to be but there is absolutely zero proof of intelligent design. You can definitely believe in ID and evolution concurrently but only one has scientific proof behind it.

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    Genious? Lol

    And intelligent design is not religion-specific.
    so it's possible that Allah created the earth.. and it's well do ented that you don't care for muslims.... I guess you'd have some essplaining to do when judgement day comes..

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    Why restrict Intelligent Design to just explaining evolution? We could explain pretty much anything we don't know (yet) about with it.

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    I don't know. Seems to me that the ability to evolve is pretty ingenious.

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    "don't understand why evolution and intelligent design"

    ID is a renaming, aka a lie, a deception, of (Biblical) creationism. By any name, there's no evidence for it, aka, a religious fairy tale intended to for primitive, ignorant people 1000s of year ago.

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    Why restrict Intelligent Design to just explaining evolution? We could explain pretty much anything we don't know (yet) about with it.
    he's not smart enough to get it..

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    so it's possible that Allah created the earth.. and it's well do ented that you don't care for muslims.... I guess you'd have some essplaining to do when judgement day comes..
    Sigh

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    I guess we could include an ID page in all educational materials... we could then refer everyone back to page 179 whenever there are other possible explanations..

    "one believes that some pre historic sea creatures evolved to land animals"... " (see page 179 for other possibility)


    " Volcanoes have been around for millions of years" (see page 179 for other possibility)

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    "don't understand why evolution and intelligent design"

    ID is a renaming, aka a lie, a deception, of (Biblical) creationism. By any name, there's no evidence for it, aka, a religious fairy tale intended to for primitive, ignorant people 1000s of year ago.
    How does a person distinguish an arrowhead from an ordinary rock? Hint: one of them has evidence of something.

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    How does a person distinguish an arrowhead from an ordinary rock? Hint: one of them has evidence of something.
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    How does a person distinguish an arrowhead from an ordinary rock? Hint: one of them has evidence of something.
    Whats the evidence for ID?

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    Whats the evidence for ID?
    Seems to me that it is all around us. I suppose we can have faith that life spontaneously generated, which is no more provable than creation.

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    Seems to me that it is all around us. I suppose we can have faith that life spontaneously generated, which is no more provable than creation.
    All around us? Can you specify? As far as I know, its not considered fact at all that life spontaneously generated. Its just that we don't know.

    Sometimes its ok to say you don't know something as opposed to making things up, IMO.

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    Seems to me that it is all around us. I suppose we can have faith that life spontaneously generated, which is no more provable than creation.
    so why teach science at all? because by your definition anything could have happened spontaneously...

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    All around us? Can you specify? As far as I know, its not considered fact at all that life spontaneously generated. Its just that we don't know.

    Sometimes its ok to say you don't know something as opposed to making things up, IMO.

    Evolution can't explain the origins of life and it cannot explain why human's brains are hard-wired for music. Human babies dance to music. Baby chimps don't.

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    Creationism says God created the universe 6000 years ago, with man and all other life popping into existence then just as it is now.

    They swallow that fairy tale but refuse to believe in life spontaneously evolved over Bs of years?

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    Evolution can't explain the origins of life and it cannot explain why human's brains are hard-wired for music. Human babies dance to music. Baby chimps don't.
    None of that is evidence for ID. No one ever said evolution is a complete theory for everything having to do with life. It doesn't explain everything nor does it claim to.

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    Seems to me that it is all around us.
    There's a lot of scientifically proven things around us. A lot of the stuff that surrounds us every day is built upon solid science. There's also a lot of things we don't know about yet.

    The problem with ID and such line of thinking is that it's 'intellectually lazy', IMO. If humans would've assigned everything we don't understand or know about at some point in time to merely faith or some higher being (and that 'the evidence is all around us'), then what's the point of actually taking the time to do science and verify things, and build upon that? Why Einstein would take the time and effort of a lifetime to try to explain anything about time, space, etc if everything can easily be explained by this higher being.

    That is the reason why things such as ID and science are mutually exclusive. One offers claims that can be tested and falsified. The other offers claims that simply are not testable.

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