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If spurs get Milsap they definitaly should trade Blair, maybe in some kind of package deal for something they need.
In all honestly, Parker/Dice for Harris/Millsap is probably just about as good a deal as the Spurs are going to get for just Parker.
Parker is great for the Spurs, but his value here is overrated. Teams just aren't going to blow the bank for him. Furthermore, if the Spurs were to trade Parker, they would obviously have to get another point back in the deal. That leaves the Spurs either trading Parker with pieces for a better PG (not going to happen), or the Spurs trading Parker for a serviceable PG and other useful parts such as this Harris/Millsap trade. They are not going to find a lot of trade partners with that combo to offer.
That being said, I still don't see this happening, nor do I want it to.
If spurs get Milsap they definitaly should trade Blair, maybe in some kind of package deal for something they need.
We trade Parker for a poor's man Parker and Dice for a rich version of Blair.
We need size and defense in our front-court. Millsap provides neither. He is what Blair is supposed to be with the proper development.
I pass all the trade attempts made by this website
Parker won't be traded.
I think if Parker is traded, Jefferson needs to be included in some fashion. Also, I really like Harris as player who is solid defensively. I haven't seen him play since his Dallas days but he used to give Parker fits.
I would this do this trade but Utah would most likely balk.
Parker
McDyess
Jefferson
Harris
Jefferson
Hayward or Burks
I cannot understand why people think Jefferson should be included in a Parker deal. Parker is far and away the best Spurs trading piece, but forcing Jefferson in on the deal means the team will get something far less enticing in return. What is so hard to understand about the idea that has enormous negative value to whatever team would get him?
I can't understand why you don't. Parker was a finals MVP and 3 time champion and still in his prime and one of the best points in the league.. definitely top ten. So its reasonable to include Jefferson in my book but having said that, I would entertain deals without Jefferson included but they would need to offer more. I do like Harris but shipping him for Parker doesn't really make sense unless we get rid of Jefferson and even then, I think Utah would need to add Jefferson and one of their young players.
Because then you take Parker's trade value, and basically cut it in half just to get rid of Jefferson. It's like selling a Lexus for half-price, just as long as the buyer takes this ty Pinto off your hands as well.
If the Spurs are going to do something as drastic as trading Parker, they better get something damn impressive in return. I'm as sick of Richard as much as the rest of us, but if you include him in a Parker trade, that will not happen. If anything, Parker then becomes the sweetener to a deal to take Jefferson's contract, instead of being enticing trade bait for a promising player. Adding Jefferson in the Parker mix takes away all leverage the team has, because suddenly they are the ones dumping instead of dealing.
Please read my post again: I would entertain deals without Jefferson included but they would need to offer more.
This is the type of trade it is going to take for the Spurs to even look at it IMO. If they trade Parker they are going to need to get a serviceable PG in return and more importantly get a young proven talent inside who can rebound and bang (not shoot 3s). Although Milsap isn't the most intriguing option (slightly undersized) he definitely fits the bill ( 17pts 8rebs, and only 26 years old) and then Devin Harris (15pts 7 asts) last season.
If they are serious about getting rid of Tony then this would probably be one of the better deals if true.
I'd be more interested in a
Tony+ RJ for Al Jefferson + Harris lol
I almost wouldn't trade Parker there without it involving Al Jefferson and Devin Harris (since we would need the PG in return.) Gordon Heyward and Alec Burks rock, but they wouldn't be a needed position for our team and Derrick Favors has all the potential in the world but he has failed to impress thus far.
Parker isn't very valuable anymore, he's not a shooter or a creator, he's just a quick PG who's no longer very quick
I'd package Parker with RJ just for the cap space, and a draft pick; then tank 2012 and go after Howard
futilely continuing to try to contend with the Big 3 is just a massive waste of everyone's time and money and emotional investment
I want AlJeff. He has said his game is modeled after TD and it shows on the court. That and he's not undersized.
Millsap is nice and hes actually a pretty good defender, but is undersized and would be like having a better version of Blair who can shoot, but still doesn't match up with the bigger PF's in the league.
Millsap makes zero sense for the Spurs. They'd be better off seeing if Blair can develop a mid range jumper and if he can become a slightly better defender, just by virtue of being in better shape and gaining more experience. Because his upside is essentially that of Millsap's. In addition to being 4 years younger, Blair's already a significantly better rebounder and he'll make a combined roughly $16.7 million less over the next two years. Millsap would do little to boost their le hopes and he's not a great building block, to where that should be overlooked.
Their stated goal is to be a top 5-7 defensive team. They're not going to go after just any PF that would be a short term upgrade. It's clear from their comments that they'd like someone who essentially brings what McDyess brought. That's why I keep bringing up Amir Johnson.
blair gets outofshape
puts on weight during a season
I was high on blair but with that work ethic I am not sure he should be a spur
weight is a big issue for him because of his knees he should know that
parker has value he is still pretty quick
he still more points in the paint then all your point guards and alot of your bigs
No point in trading Parker unless it's for a solid 7'0". Anything else is just absolutely pointless.
Parker isn't going anywhere.
I used to think fans would revolt if Parker was traded because he's part of the Big 3. After the affair and his crappy post season performance, I kind of wonder if the average dumb ass fan would even give a crap if he's gone. His absence would make it easier to make fun of the French, or at least rationalize his departure. The Spurs are pretty cosmopolitan but local SA fans are not. And Spurstalk fan might live with it because then maybe Ducks would go away.
ducks would still be here
It's all about winning, nothing else.
Not only no, but NO. Utah better not do this trade.
tp leave I GUARANTEE YOU SPURS LOSE MORE GAMES THEN LAST YEAR
If TP stays I guarantee you the Spurs lose more games than last year.
This trade would be great, but there is really no use of talking about it because Spurs are not known for making blockbuster trades.
Problem with AlJeff is he has never put any effort on the defencive end in his life. I say effort becuase he has all the tools needed to be a pretty good defender, but he just puts no effort into it. Not gonna lie, He is a monster at scoring on the low block though.
If TP leaves, I guarantee you the Spurs lose more games than last year.
(assuming full season)
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