2005 Finals MVP

[Deuce Bigalow]

People are also forgetting Duncan was playing on 2 bad ankles and still put up those numbers.

manu averaged 5 less minutes and still was the best player in the series

[joshdaboss]

manu averaged 5 less minutes and still was the best player in the series

Based on? Your opinion? ROFL

[Deuce Bigalow]

Based on? Your opinion? ROFL

Manu Ginobili - 18.7 ppg on 63.6 TS%, 5.9 rpg, 4.0 apg

Tim Duncan - 20.6 ppg on 47.1 TS%, 14.1 rpg, 2.1 apg

in 4.7 less mpg
and the big plays in the clutch

best player in the series

[Deuce Bigalow]

and do you know how bad 47.1 TS% is for a big man? its terrible

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan's play in the 2nd half of game 7 was the difference..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan's play in the 2nd half of game 7 was the difference..

4th quarter of game 7

Manu - 11 points
Duncan - 5 points

game 7
Manu - 23 points on 13 shots
Duncan - 25 points on 27 shots

TS% of game 7
Manu - .757%
Duncan - .422%

[dbreiden83080]

4th quarter of game 7

Manu - 11 points
Duncan - 5 points

Manu - 23 points on 13 shots
Duncan - 25 points on 27 shots

TS% of game 7
Manu - .757%
Duncan - .422%

Have you watched the game or are you just visiting Basketball reference.com? After a terrible 1st half for the whole team Duncan came alive in the 3rd Qtr scoring i believe 12 of his 25 in the qtr.. Pistons were playing a lot of 1 on 1 with the 2 Wallaces, staying at home on the Spurs shooters.. When Duncan came alive Larry Brown starting doubling down hard and Duncan was finding the open man. At least 9 pts were scored on big wide open 3's late in the game as a result of the double team.. Manu and Bruce both hit 2 with no Pistons in sight.. Plus Tim had a bigger defensive presence the entire series.. He led the series in pts and rebounds as well.. And leadership.. Watch the finals DVD he is chewing out the guys on the bench demanding more and had that refuse to lose mentality..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Have you watched the game or are you just visiting Basketball reference.com? After a terrible 1st half for the whole team Duncan came alive in the 3rd Qtr scoring i believe 12 of his 25 in the qtr.. Pistons were playing a lot of 1 on 1 with the 2 Wallaces, staying at home on the Spurs shooters.. When Duncan came alive Larry Brown starting doubling down hard and Duncan was finding the open man. At least 9 pts were scored on big wide open 3's late in the game as a result of the double team.. Manu and Bruce both hit 2 with no Pistons in sight.. Plus Tim has a bigger defensive presence the entire series.. He led the series in pts and rebounds as well.. And leadership.. Watch the finals DVD he is chewing out the guys in the huddle demanding more and had that refuse to lose mentality..

lol cool, but manu was the best player in the series
duncan was the leader, but manu was the better player

and i did watch the games, remember game 5, 1/4 in freethrows and missing a WIDEOPEN put back layup in the 4th, and not scoring a single field goal in the last 10 minutes of that game, just 1 point on 1/4 freethrows

[dbreiden83080]

lol cool, but manu was the best player in the series
duncan was the leader, but manu was the better player

and i did watch the games, remember game 5, 1/4 in freethrows and missing a WIDEOPEN put back layup in the 4th, and not scoring a single field goal in the last 10 minutes of that game, just 1 point on 1/4 freethrows

Duncan was the foundation of the teams entire defense.. The 2 best defenders were Bruce and Tim.. Manu is a good defender but not at that level.. And he got wide open shots in game 7 thanks to guess who??

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan was the foundation of the teams entire defense.. The 2 best defenders were Bruce and Tim.. Manu is a good defender but not at that level.. And he got wide open shots in game 7 thanks to guess who??

manu went to the rim and hit all the big shots
it wasnt cause of tim lol
and duncans defense wasnt even that good, Sheed took it to him all the time

[Deuce Bigalow]

nobody could play any worse than duncan in the 4th and OT of game 5
he was bad
missed every shot, blocked, stripped, missed 3/4 of his freethrows, sheed hittin shots on him

[dbreiden83080]

manu went to the rim and hit all the big shots

Manu hit shots, Bruce hit shots, Tim hit shots and forced the action.. Tim basically did what Lebron was too scared to do.. Keep demanding the ball even when you are not shooting a great %.. He didn't back off. And that's why the Spurs won..

[dbreiden83080]

nobody could play any worse than duncan in the 4th and OT of game 5
he was bad
missed every shot, blocked, stripped, missed 3/4 of his freethrows

Everyone and i mean everyone sucked games 3 and 4 in detroit.. The whole team..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Everyone and i mean everyone sucked games 3 and 4 in detroit.. The whole team..

i just checked the numbers, and they were god awful

[Deuce Bigalow]

but theres no excuse for a big man shooting THAT bad
the dude plays in the post, >10 foot shots

30 points on 10/32 shooting in game 3-4

[dbreiden83080]

but theres no excuse for a big man shooting THAT bad
the dude plays in the post, >10 foot shots

Tim had a good finals.. Not close to the damage he did in 99 and 03 but he was facing the best defensive team in the league on 2 bad ankles in games like 100 plus on the season..

And they won.. So it's all good..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Tim had a good finals.. Not close to the damage he did in 99 and 03 but he was facing the best defensive team in the league on 2 bad ankles in games like 100 plus on the season..

And they won.. So it's all good..

just admit that ginobili was better

[dbreiden83080]

just admit that ginobili was better

Can't do it bro..

Good talk

[Deuce Bigalow]

Can't do it bro..

Good talk

you know in your heart manu was the mvp, dont lie to yourself

[Leetonidas]

but theres no excuse for a big man shooting THAT bad
the dude plays in the post, >10 foot shots

30 points on 10/32 shooting in game 3-4

Ben Wallace was a pretty good defender, Rasheed wasn't a slouch either

[Leetonidas]

Honestly both of them are my favorite players. Ginobili came up huge but I feel Duncan was more consistent throughout the series (as always). In the end I give it to Tim because he IS the Spurs but tbh it doesn't matter either one could've won it and I wouldn't have cared, and I doubt either of them would've cared they didn't win it either.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Ben Wallace was a pretty good defender, Rasheed wasn't a slouch either

its the defenders fault a 7 foot big man shot 31% in 2 games?

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

lol this guy still making threads. well i do have to admit you did make a good case this time but still most defence cant be put into a stat. offesnively they were matched but on D duncan practically held down the paint alone. plus duncan matching ppg while having the DPOY & sheed who is a very capable defender hounding him the whole time shows that he was the best player in the finals & like someone else already stated it wasnt an unanimous decision. manu had his votes.

[Leetonidas]

its the defenders fault a 7 foot big man shot 31% in 2 games?

Despite this being a troll topic/response, c'mon guy, Ben and Rasheed tag-teaming Duncan had a lot to do with his poor shooting percentages. If Spurs fans know and believe Duncan is/was/has been our best and most valuable player, why does it matter you believe? I'm assuming you're trying to discredit Duncan but as good as Manu is/was his defense cannot even touch the defensive anchorship of Tim Duncan.

[TMTTRIO]

Duncan outright deserved Finals MVP but sometimes I wonder how far would the Spurs have gotten if Manu didn't step up and was out of his mind good and crazy during those playoffs? Would Tony or another player have really stepped up to the plate and carried our team like that? We still barely got by the Pistons.