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If they can still sell the products by paying $12/hour then sure. If they can't, then $7.78 it is.
I guess high school and college freshman are out of the picture...
Plus the other problem is that after certain amount, it becomes non-compe ive. It's just cheaper to import from, say, Mexico or whatever. The US subsidizes farms, but it's not a isolationist country (at least right now).
If they can still sell the products by paying $12/hour then sure. If they can't, then $7.78 it is.
Thing is, they do pay $9+/hour and:
A) rotten crops
B) 10% unemployment
I agree. But you can't ignore that's the world we live in.
Well, you also have to add that cost of living is a lot cheaper in other countries. It all adds up.
Agree. At the same time, if the government hands you a check for more money, the incentive to buckle down isn't going to be there, IMO.
Then again, you're single, which is probably the easiest situation to deal with as far as picking up whatever job is out there. When you're married, maybe even kids, it's difficult to survive with $9/hour, specially on seasonal jobs like that.
Times change and happens. And once you do engage into having a family, you can't just roll it back when the hits the fan. People had stable jobs 10-15 years ago, and the economy was booming.
With kids? Not sure about that at all. Obviously, depends on the place and the situation.
Then they need to make it pay better than living off the government teat.
Maybe... the government needs to make it harder to live off the government teat.
maybe... the government should send people over to work in the fields to retain eligible for benefits...
There are solutions. Just be creative.
Also, what is the possibility these are bumper crops left to rot, because if all were brought to marker, the supply would drive the prices down?
That's disgusting...
Something must be done to put these people to work in the fields.
7.25 x 40 = $290/week, $1200/month
Why pay farm workers and dirt workers more than the minimum wage?
(which the Repugs want to abolish completely so Repug businessman can pay less).
Lower unemployment "wage" to minimum wage?
You'd have to eliminate unemployment wage completely to get people out to work for $7.25 (anyway, people here have said such people aren't worth 7.25)
And here's American Icon Hershey ing over foreign workers, showing them the America that VRWC and UCA has created:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/op...diplomacy.html
Like what?
Corporate Elites Still Doing a Job on American Workers
the future for working families will be one of low wages, long periods of unemployment, no health coverage or pensions, a tattered safety net and practically no worker rights -- get used to it.
What are the "pro-growth policies" these economic elites are demanding from Washington? Deregulation of corporate power, de-unionization, reduction of taxes on corporations, the rich, cutting "en lement" benefits (Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid), and the privatization of everything from education to transportation -- to name a few. Guess who grows under these policies and who shrinks?
By a glaring two-to-one margin, the American people have consistently been telling pollsters that the economic crisis is not deficit spending by the government, but jobs, jobs, jobs. Yet our political leaders and media have focused on Washington's ideological imbroglio over slashing trillions of dollars in spending, rather than dealing with the brutal reality that there are now four jobless Americans for each job opening. Meanwhile, the national presidential debate has turned into a right-wing clown show, with the likes of Gov. Rick Perry and Congresswoman Michele Bachmann suggesting we should eliminate the minimum wage as a way to create the "certainty" that corporations claim they must have before they start hiring again.
http://www.alternet.org/module/print...ndviews/659581
And you assholes really think illegals are a huge problem, a national priority?
Knowing WC, shackles and chains probably
Amen to that.
simply giving money to people isn't the answer. some kind of infrustructure or agricultural work. there's plenty of work to be done. unless you are physically handicapped you shouldn't be sitting on a pile of government money w/o working for it. many times you are not aiding someone by giving them money. true, some people will put it to good use, but many others will not and you're not helping them at all. if they work for it they'll think twice about what they do w/ it.
There's people that work AND still need benefits... not surprising seeing how much the minimum wage is...
This has always been the case in the country, agricultual employment has never earned a"living wage"
White people have been avoiding to pay money from agricultural work in mass since slavery.
Slavery to share cropping to illegal immigration to...outsourcing. When that cheap labor cycle breaks down, it's going to be quite a sight.
The good ole days, when white racists dominated the political landscape to make jim crow and sharecropping a commonplace in ag labor. Essentially anything to legitimize a nice cheap slave wage labor supply
In the mean time while your waiting for your white power revolution, if you want to mow some of my land in the SA hill country Area, I'll pay you $11 an hour. Of course if the goats beat you to the punch, too bad. Sometimes goats do a better job than racist trash.
This. People just don't get it, field work in agriculture has never paid livable wages.
You want livable wages for white people? Talk to moron deregulators who supported stuff like NAFTA that enabled corporations to ship jobs overseas. Until then, I don't feel the least bit sorry the "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" white people who are too stupid to blame the right group.
Most manual labor, not only farm labor, pays below median wages (unless unionized to obtain a living wage).
WC, the libertarian.
And not working should not pay more.
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