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I don't know if you ever had any credibility here. But not being able to call a spade a spade proves to me that you're just as blind as some of the extreme right wingers that you love to take shots at.
Everything listed are either partisan characterizations of wrongdoing or, apparently, don't rise to the level of warranting any action -- more than whining about it.
I don't know if you ever had any credibility here. But not being able to call a spade a spade proves to me that you're just as blind as some of the extreme right wingers that you love to take shots at.
funny that's exactly what describes the solyndra "scandal" so far. yet you've already crucified magic negro
After Falling For Climategate ‘Scandal,’ Jon Stewart Goes Gaga Over Solyndra
http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/...over-solyndra/
Wow, what a revealing article by ThinkProgress. They pretty much closed the book on this one with all of their insightful analysis.
like climate gate, the Repug/Fox outrage over solyndra is completely faked.
Who sent the goons to grab all the solyndra stuff? Repugs?
Thus, I used the word allegedly. Something the left never used with the previous administration -- always went straight to convicting Bush of a crime and throwing him out of office. Every time.funny that's exactly what describes the solyndra "scandal" so far. yet you've already crucified magic negro
I'll say it one more time. I believe there should be a thorough investigation of the Solyndra and, if wrongdoing is discovered, it should be prosecuted. If Obama is implicated, he should be impeached and tried by the Senate...but, only if he wins re-election; otherwise, we can just move on and set about the job of repairing the damage he's done.
Is that clear enough?
Do I think crimes were committed in the Solyndra debacle? I think it's entirely possible. And, considering how much direct involvement the White House had in bringing that debacle about, I think it's fair to point to Obama and ask the questions.
You can disagree but, oh well.
So, since we're on the topic, let's look at the facts so far.funny that's exactly what describes the solyndra "scandal" so far. yet you've already crucified magic negro
1) Internal administration e-mails/do ents demonstrate DOE was warned, well before the granting of the $500 million dollar loan, that Solyndra would be bankrupt by September 2011. They filed for bankruptcy on September 9, 2011. I think it would be reasonable to discover why this do ented -- and accurate -- prediction was ignored.
2) Internal administration e-mails/do ents demonstrate administration officials rushed the loan through the process in order to provide the Vice President with a photo op.
3) The OMB, for what some are saying is either a first or very rare, expressed concern over what the "optics" of a failed Solyndra would mean for the administration.
4) Somehow, a private investor in Solyndra, who happened to be a major campaign bundler for Obama, ended up in a superior position, over taxpayers, in bankruptcy when conventional processes would have placed him behind the taxpayer. I think that warrants investigation.
where's the law being broken?
Didn't Perry appoint campaign contributors to posts within the TX govt? Sure you want to go there?
I don't know. That's why you investigate.
If my government gave $500 million dollars to a company they knew was failing, that they knew would make them look bad if they failed, and that they then helped a President's crony (allegedly) gain an unusual and favorable position when the company bellied-up, I'd want it investigated for wrongdoing.
Wouldn't you?
Sure, go there.
You're not reasonable people, Yoni.
Even so, I'm not a minority of one on these issues and, I think you belie your unreasonableness to assert everyone, on my side of these issues, is unreasonable.
You're still far from reasonable. Those two things are not connected.
Okay, I'm not sure your position on that matters. The fact remains, there are as many, if not more, people that share my positions on issues with which you disagree.
Prove it. How many more people agree with your takes than my takes?
Please provide exact numbers whenever possible.
he just made that up... that's what yoni does!
Who's being unreasonable?
Are you suggesting there isn't a large amount of support for the positions I side with in this forum? Which ones?
And, whether or not either one of us is able to produce definitive numbers on which of our positions is most supported, doesn't mean any number of people in either of those groups aren't reasonable people.
so stop making the clam that more people agree with/ support your opinion than others... how hard is that?
Are you suggesting there isn't a large amount of support for the positions I side with in this forum? Which ones?
And, whether or not either one of us is able to produce definitive numbers on which of our positions is most supported, doesn't mean any number of people in either of those groups aren't reasonable people.
I think the 2004 re-election of Bush was a referendum on many of these issues.
What's unreasonable about asking to back up your claim?
Are you gonna back it up or run away from it?
How many, Yoni? I'll be waiting for the numbers.
dem living in past
bush made mistakes
but this idiot is making more
What about the 2008 election? Did you, along with your alleged majority, agree with the winner?
President Bush wasn't a candidate.What about the 2008 election? Did you, along with your alleged majority, agree with the winner?
The point of bringing up the 2004 re-election was to demonstrate the point that there must have been enough reasonable people, who agreed with me on the issues related to President Bush's alleged criminal activities that it wasn't a factor.
If it wasn't reasonable to hold those positions -- regardless of whether or not you believe I'm reasonable -- I doubt President Bush, or any politician, would continue to hold enough favor to win a Presidential election.
Your 'ideas' were.
And there was another election in 2006 too. The majority voted there too.
None of the principal issues we've been discussing here were on the ballot. But even if they were, are you suggesting that everyone that voted against President Obama was being unreasonable?
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