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They won't. They'll assume that those who are gay will be professional, and won't let it create an atmosphere that detracts from the mission. If it does, they'll be counciled.
You know you can tell them you're straight and not interested, right?
They won't. They'll assume that those who are gay will be professional, and won't let it create an atmosphere that detracts from the mission. If it does, they'll be counciled.
Not my fault I jointed the best service. And methinks thou doth protest too much. Most of the people that have a problem with this are over the age of 40 or so... and there's not many people over the age of 40 in the military.
So you're against jr high and high school athletics and PE classes too, I take it?
I just think I ask a legitimate question.
If the sexes are separated in the showers and bunks due to the fact they are sexually and physically attracted to one another; how are sexuals different?
If sexuality is a normal orientation and, sexuals have a libido, find others of the same sex attractive, and find themselves wanting to have sexual relations with someone of the same sex; why should heterosexuals be subjected to that when they are not similarly treated with respect to the opposite sex?
Why don't they assume that about heterosexuals?
Look, we're talking about normalizing sexuality. If it is normal to assume men and women heterosexuals cannot shower or bunk together because of the problems it will cause, why is it off limits to assume men and women sexuals should not shower or bunk together because of the problems it will cause?
Obviously the gays will just start popping boners for everyone they see in the shower and gay rape will become commonplace now that they don't have a cover to protect.
I didn't suggest that.
But, if it's safe to assume that if heterosexuals would act in that way should they be forced to shower and bunk with the opposite sex; why is not safe to assume sexuals would do the same?
DADT was the boner patrol. Getting drummed out of the military for demonstrating an attraction to the same sex is pretty good salt peter, I would imagine.
Can't wait to see Chaz Bono in a Marine Corp uniform...
I've never spent a whole lot of time around enlisted, but I know a lot of officers and they're the most professional bunch I've ever been around. I have no doubts they'd be just fine showing/bunking with the opposite sex if they had to, and the same goes for sexuals.
Furthermore, the same sexual harassment standards as heterosexuals should apply to sexuals to safeguard against all the shenanigans that folks who have no direct interest in the issue (other than their own not-so-incon uous phobia) are worried about.
And yet, they don't do it.
Agreed but, why do you assume I have no direct interest?
I once observed this exchange in the locker room of my gym:
A young kid (early 20s) was talking to his friend how there better not be any gays in locker room checking him out. A few minutes later a guy in his 30s, pretty well built, walks by and says: "I'm gay, and trust me this isn't the place I come to meet guys. Quit being such a ."
Young kids facial expression was priceless. I LOLed.
So are you arguing we should let opposite sexes share showers and bunks?
What's your direct interest?Agreed but, why do you assume I have no direct interest?
No. I'm arguing that if sexuality is a normal orientation with all the trappings of heterosexuality, why is the military going to be allowed to treat them differently than heterosexuals in policies designed to prevent fraternization, harassment, and sexual assault?
What difference does that make? I was merely curious why you would assume I have none.
You joined the second best. There is no beating the Navy. I wish I went Air Force myself, but went Army, being convinced promotions were faster. There is no beating the Navy for technical schools. Air force is the second best in technical training, but the best in how they treat their people. I would have Joined the Navy if I didn't mind living on the open seas. Not afraid of water, I just need women in close proximity. I would have joined the Air Force if I knew the promotions were better than in the Army for real good people in technical fields. Making E-6 in my MOS was next to impossible. Had to wait in essence for someone to die or retire. Such a good job field, nobody left.
yoni, gay men don't automatically want to have sex with you.
Get over yourself.
Well, for one thing, you're talking about the military, which isn't known as a great innovator. They probably will integrate sometime down the line. It is due to that same reason that the military won't separate gays/straights... because they've already been bunking together.
Another reason is that men are usually physically bigger than females, and so in a random confrontation of male vs female, the male will usually win out, which is a reason for separated sexes.
This post in the 1950s.
Why shouldn't the straight person have to deal with being uncomfortable, rather than the gay person?
What makes you assume that's the reason separation has always been based upon biological sex?
This issue definitely weeds out the backwards phobes.
No we're not. We're talking about no longer actively stigmatizing it.
I'll take you seriously when you pe ion your representative to have kids not take showers after football, basketball, track, PE, etc. in school. It should be a serious concern for you, since jr high school to high school is the age a male has the highest libido.
What other reason is there?
I think in 6 months to a year from now, they're going to see this was not such a good idea - but you can't put the Genie back in the bottle. I think this will have a negative effect on the military.
So does this mean there will be gay couples in the military? Is that allowed or do they split couples up in the military so they won't be distracted?
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