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    Steve Jobs is a lucky man, today.

    He was born placed for adoption by his un-wed mother who could not afford to raise him. Just think if abortion has been legal and as readily available then, as it is today.

    He lived a capitalist life of creativity that enriched him and those who were fortunate enough to be employed by Apple, hold their stock, or provide the support products and services Apple required.

    He died just as socialist/liberal/anarchists are trying to undo the capitalist, free market structure that made Apple and Steve Jobs success possible.

    I have a friend who went on a Facebook rant early yesterday about how the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd was going to bring down the capitalist pigs in America. It was followed last night with a poignant post about which of Apple's devices he was using when he learned of Job's death.

    I guess he didn't recognize Steve Job's was one of the biggest capitalist pigs of all. Irony. Gotta love America.

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    Yoni you're capable of ruining any ing thread.

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    Yoni you're capable of ruining any ing thread.
    I think I enhanced it.

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    RIP. Truly a man who changed the world.

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    amazing guy and life (LSD, Zen, Whole Earth catalog!!), but Apple Corp has turned into the authoritarian, closed, secretive, powerful Big Brother that Apple's famous anti-IBM/Big Brother ad railed against.

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    facebook friend rant lol

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    RIP

    Dude was a visionary.

    Some might say he was one of the "winners in life's lottery" (I truly detest that saying), but Apple and Pixar wouldn't be where they are today without the vision and drive of that one individual. When it came to the life (and death) of Steve Jobs, luck was not a factor.

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    There are people who win life's lottery but Steve Jobs wasn't one of them. You do one big thing and it might be chance. You revolutionize several industries and come out ahead of everyone else on so many different things then you're just flat out brilliant.

    I would love to have ONE of the dozens of ideas Jobs conceptualized.

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    What really initiated the Apple II's momentum was one program: VisiCalc, which Jobs and Apple didn't write.

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    I have a friend who went on a Facebook rant early yesterday about how the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd was going to bring down the capitalist pigs in America. It was followed last night with a poignant post about which of Apple's devices he was using when he learned of Job's death.

    I guess he didn't recognize Steve Job's was one of the biggest capitalist pigs of all. Irony. Gotta love America.
    I think you realize that it's necessary to split hairs here and that your "friend" was targeting capitalists who didn't/don't contribute to society in a unique fashion such as Jobs did.

    I'll just file your post under disingenuous and walk away.

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    I think you realize that it's necessary to split hairs here and that your "friend" was targeting capitalists who didn't/don't contribute to society in a unique fashion such as Jobs did.
    I don't see my friend or any of the occupiers of Wall Street splitting such hairs. They seem intent on blaming "Wall Street" for all our ills without making the distinction you assert.

    Tell me; of the tens of thousands of businesses listed on the exchanges; which are the "good" capitalists and which are the "bad" capitalists? Should we just let Michael Moore or, God forbid, Rosanne Barr pick and choose which deserve the guillotine or reeducation camps?

    Had the government not stepped in; Wall Street would have taken care of this three years ago.

    I'll just file your post under disingenuous and walk away.
    And, yet, you didn't just "walk away."

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    I don't see my friend or any of the occupiers of Wall Street splitting such hairs. They seem intent on blaming "Wall Street" for all our ills without making the distinction you assert.
    They seem, or they are? I doubt you really know. Sure the protesters havent come out with a mission statement as you've requested. That doesn't mean the individuals don't have a clear goal(s) in mind.

    Tell me; of the tens of thousands of businesses listed on the exchanges; which are the "good" capitalists and which are the "bad" capitalists? Should we just let Michael Moore or, God forbid, Rosanne Barr pick and choose which deserve the guillotine or reeducation camps?
    Well, that's the trillion dollar question now isn't it? Seems to be a pretty good thing for the protesters to identify and get out in the open.

    And, yet, you didn't just "walk away."
    Let he who is innocent........

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    They seem, or they are? I doubt you really know. Sure the protesters havent come out with a mission statement as you've requested. That doesn't mean the individuals don't have a clear goal(s) in mind.
    In the absence of a stated purpose, aren't we all left to supposition? But, alas...

    Well, that's the trillion dollar question now isn't it? Seems to be a pretty good thing for the protesters to identify and get out in the open.
    ...it appears they have.

    First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET (User Submitted)

    It appears nebulous "corporations" are the "they" to which is alluded at the first of every one of their 23 grievances. Not very specific and, it would probably take all day to sift through the vomit of complaints tossed on the page.

    Let he who is innocent........
    I wasn't the one suggesting to "file your post under disingenuous and walk away." No, you added that middle step of responding.

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    Damn, yoni just wants to politicize every ing thing in the world.

    lol OFFICIAL (User Submitted)

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    yoni defending a Democrat? crofl

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    In the absence of a stated purpose, aren't we all left to supposition? But, alas...
    I subscribe to reasonable suppositions. I don't believe yours was.

    ...it appears they have.

    First OFFICIAL Release from OCCUPY WALL STREET (User Submitted)

    It appears nebulous "corporations" are the "they" to which is alluded at the first of every one of their 23 grievances. Not very specific and, it would probably take all day to sift through the vomit of complaints tossed on the page.
    It's a start. Did you expect a polished treatiste at this point in time?

    I wasn't the one suggesting to "file your post under disingenuous and walk away." No, you added that middle step of responding.
    I take this as an assertion that you've never said one thing and done another? You've got me there. I'll need to take notes from you on how to be a better person then.

    Let me get my iPad out first.

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    I subscribe to reasonable suppositions. I don't believe yours was.
    I think it was perfectly reasonable, particularly after reading their grievances against "corporations," to suggest they really don't know what they're protesting. Even the founders knew, when crafting the Declaration of Independence, the source of their upset was King George III. , they actually crafted their declaration before starting a revolution. It would have saved the "Occupy Wall Street" idiots a lot of ridicule.

    It's a start. Did you expect a polished treatiste at this point in time?
    It's a cart vs. horse thing, if you ask me. Before I approach anyone with a grievance, I pretty much have the specifics, along with proposed resolutions, ironed out.

    I take this as an assertion that you've never said one thing and done another? You've got me there. I'll need to take notes from you on how to be a better person then.

    Let me get my iPad out first.
    Let me know when you're ready...

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    I think it was perfectly reasonable, particularly after reading their grievances against "corporations," to suggest they really don't know what they're protesting. Even the founders knew, when crafting the Declaration of Independence, the source of their upset was King George III. , they actually crafted their declaration before starting a revolution. It would have saved the "Occupy Wall Street" idiots a lot of ridicule.
    Quite an interesting comparison, however nothing so grandiose as what the forefathers hatched is in the pipeline here. They're protesting, not inciting revolution against a governing en y.

    It's a cart vs. horse thing, if you ask me. Before I approach anyone with a grievance, I pretty much have the specifics, along with proposed resolutions, ironed out.
    I would too. Now duplicate that feat with thousands of strangers. I think that for a protest, it's more important to be visible first since many voices want to be heard at once.

    Let me know when you're ready...
    Waiting for something of redeemable value. I think I'll grab a snickers, or two.

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    Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?

    I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.

    Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.

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    Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?

    I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.

    Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
    Excuse the ankle-biters with their faux outrage

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    Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?
    Really? Hadn't heard.

    I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.
    Imagine that! In a political forum, no less. Where's the ing decency.

    Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.
    Thanks! I, for one, appreciate that.

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    Hey, did ya'll hear that Steve Jobs died?

    I was reading this thread, hoping to read what people thought about his contributions to society and the tragedy of his early death, but ran into a bunch of hot rhetoric about political issues that have nothing to do with Steve Jobs.

    Just wanted to be sure that the news had gotten out.

    Let me get my iPad out first.
    I did my best...........

    Yoni-troll ftw.

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