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    I'm part of the 32% that say higher taxes.
    From the seat of your handout golf cart.

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    From the seat of your handout golf cart.

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    From the seat of your handout golf cart.
    Damn straight. I've paid more than my fair share of taxes. I started counting it up one time and I got sick and quit counting at 1 million.

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    Besides, Obama offered those tax credits to influence peoples behavior to buy electric vehicles. He damn sure influenced mine. Obama WANTED me to buy those electric vehicles!

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    You say that jokingly, Cosmic, but I wouldn't be surprised if you actually had one of those big government subsidized Rascal Scooters.

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    You say that jokingly, Cosmic, but I wouldn't be surprised if you actually had one of those big government subsidized Rascal Scooters.
    he does. , he told everyone he was going to get one the minute the news of them came out.

    I still don't see what's wrong with that though.

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    You say that jokingly, Cosmic, but I wouldn't be surprised if you actually had one of those big government subsidized Rascal Scooters.
    , I've got better than that...I've got $14,000 of free golf carts ( a 4 seater and a limo 6 seater) compliments of President Obama. God bless america!

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    Those electric es are awesome for running around the ranch. I park my big gas guzzling 4 wheel drive monster truck when I get there and don't start it up again till it's time to leave.

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    You know what one big difference between the have and have nots is and why many of the haves are actually haves? Because the Have Nots who think they're big act like Pakidan and some of the other people in the ATT thread who act like theirs some kind of morality involved in a business transaction while the Haves like CC just go out and get what is theirs.

    While I don't think you should break the law, there is some serious truth in the saying "if you're not cheating you're not trying". You'd better damn well use everything you can to your advantage in today's world unless you're happy with where you are.

    I still maintain that some of the craziest to me isn't that the rich fight off regulation and more of a tax burden but how some of the lower classes and middle classes do the fighting FOR them.

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    You know what one big difference between the have and have nots is and why many of the haves are actually haves? Because the Have Nots who think they're big act like Pakidan and some of the other people in the ATT thread who act like theirs some kind of morality involved in a business transaction while the Haves like CC just go out and get what is theirs.

    While I don't think you should break the law, there is some serious truth in the saying "if you're not cheating you're not trying". You'd better damn well use everything you can to your advantage in today's world unless you're happy with where you are.

    I still maintain that some of the craziest to me isn't that the rich fight off regulation and more of a tax burden but how some of the lower classes and middle classes do the fighting FOR them.
    Manny, you are right, but I think you can still run a moral and profitable business. They are not mutually exclusive. And although I pushed the envelope with the golf carts, that was totally above board. I actually got audited for taking that $14,000 tax credit and beat it because I had all the proper do entation and complied with the letter of the law. I didn't write the law, I didn't lobby for it, but if they are going to freaking give it away I'm damn sure going to accommodate them.

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    By the way, I don't think that anyone said that you had deceived them, WC. Everyone only said that you were being deceptive.

    In case you were wondering, if everyone recognizes your deceptiveness, that means you are horrible at it.
    I don't care what their confirmation biased perception is. And with Chump, I just was giving flippant responses because of the ass he is all the time.

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    Besides, Obama offered those tax credits to influence peoples behavior to buy electric vehicles. He damn sure influenced mine. Obama WANTED me to buy those electric vehicles!
    Yep, I don't think he expected the working poor to buy any.

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    , I've got better than that...I've got $14,000 of free golf carts ( a 4 seater and a limo 6 seater) compliments of President Obama. God bless america!
    No kidding.

    Why would you want to waste the space storing a Rascal?

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    I don't care what their confirmation biased perception is. And with Chump, I just was giving flippant responses because of the ass he is all the time.
    You are being deceptive.

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    Manny, you are right, but I think you can still run a moral and profitable business. They are not mutually exclusive. And although I pushed the envelope with the golf carts, that was totally above board. I actually got audited for taking that $14,000 tax credit and beat it because I had all the proper do entation and complied with the letter of the law. I didn't write the law, I didn't lobby for it, but if they are going to freaking give it away I'm damn sure going to accommodate them.
    You got audited?

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    You got audited?
    Uhhhh...I realize that seems unusual (and apparently hilarious) to losers like you, but it's actually pretty common for people that actually work and make decent money.

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    CC I didn't mean to imply that you were immoral. My main point was just to say that you can't sit there and let opportunities pass you buy and expect to be successful. If you give me an inch, I want a few more, etc.

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    Uhhhh...I realize that seems unusual (and apparently hilarious) to losers like you, but it's actually pretty common for people that actually work and make decent money.


    And you're middle class (AT BEST), so your odds are probably like 1 in 200+. That's hardly common.

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    the haves and have nots...

    if there is a loophole to be exploited and you can afford it? why not....free carts es

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    Uhhhh...I realize that seems unusual (and apparently hilarious) to losers like you, but it's actually pretty common for people that actually work and make decent money.
    No its not.

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    True, if you are an employee of a company and your tax return do entation consists only of a W2 it is fairly uncommon, but the more complicated your return gets, the more likely you are to be audited. Mine is fairly complicated because of multiple investment ordinary income sources and a property partnership.

    And "Audit" may have been an exaggeration. They sent me a letter disallowing the credit and demanding $14,000, I sent them detailed do entation and their own guidelines highlighted with the pertinent sections and they backed down and allowed the credit. They did not actually audit my full return.

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    True, if you are an employee of a company and your tax return do entation consists only of a W2 it is fairly uncommon, but the more complicated your return gets, the more likely you are to be audited. Mine is fairly complicated because of multiple investment ordinary income sources and a property partnership.

    And "Audit" may have been an exaggeration. They sent me a letter disallowing the credit and demanding $14,000, I sent them detailed do entation and their own guidelines highlighted with the pertinent sections and they backed down and allowed the credit. They did not actually audit my full return.
    Maybe for those with offshore holdings and the like but having deductions on your return does not mean much at all. I don't see <5% as common at all.

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