You mean principled objection to ideas hatched in conservative think tanks and recently propounded by the likes of Newt Gingrich, like mandates for health insurance and cap and trade?
Yes
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Sort of (explain)
and no immigration bill under dubya.
Illegal immigration is Repug bait only for campaigning for the racist xenophobes, not a Repug governing policy.
TX Repug businessmen, who profit from cheap labor, actually had JimmyRicky back off/not go hardline on illegal immigrants.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-14-2011 at 06:14 AM.
You mean principled objection to ideas hatched in conservative think tanks and recently propounded by the likes of Newt Gingrich, like mandates for health insurance and cap and trade?
Obama can use the race card when he goes up against Mitt. What can Mitt do? Use the Mormon card? Obama can and will use his half blackness to his advantage.
I'm just curious to see what Obama is going to run on to get re-elected. I mean he has done so many things similar to Bush. And he was the one that told us that if we voted for McCain, that we would be voting for another term of Bush. What is Obama going to do? Blame it on Bush again? Will Obama ever take responsibility for the bad stuff that has happened under his watch? I know the Republicans suck ass and have tried block him on everything but when you think about it's Obama fault. If he had done a better job, Democrats wouldn't have lost their power in congress because voters would have had more confidence in them and would have voted to keep them in congress.
What did I miss.
Is Cain out of it?
Cain'tDeliverIn30Minutes is out of it.
Too bad.
I think he would make a better president than anyone else in the race.
lol. like either side wont do what it takes to win. they already get huge conventions worth tens of millions on the taxpayers; that's fair. and then how much do these campaigns get collectively? Jesus. like amiercans even care who wins. it's either my guy wins or america goes to . well guess what, america is quickly becoming . and to me, it feels like it happened overnight.
@AFBlue: btw, where was the principled obstruction of GOP lawmakers during the runaway spending and deficits of 2001-2008?
Or did principles bow to expediency during that period?
lol rediscovering core principles only when the other party takes power
is not called the party of no for no reason
"it's principled objection."
the principle being that non-Repugs are to be eliminated, obstructed as illegitimate.
"But, I won't deny that they're taking a harder line because they don't like the record of the current president."
total bull . They want to him to fail, and cause millions to remain in deeper pain, for purely political purposes.
They certainly don't like his record that he got OBL, and helped get Khadafi.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-14-2011 at 10:42 AM.
lol boutons touts the Obama war machine. VRWC indeed.
I'm not touting the Obama war machine, which pretty much runs on MIC/military orders, no WH orders, and is unstoppable, not under control by civilians like the Exec.
Obama's "murder anybody anywhere" policy is one of his great disappointments.
Bull .
Blue. Tinted. Goggles. You are delusional. Do I need to even list the number of issues liberals have used the courts to fight for throughout the years. The hyperbole of Biden in the mid nineties claiming Republicans want old people to eat dog food to survive? The list could be endless. Republicans Suck. Democrats Suck. Read my sig quote from Boutons years ago; it sums it up. Don't be sheeple, you're better than that. Be left wing; don't be a Democrat shill.
This is literally wrong but I suppose it serves well enough to illustrate the degree to which you remain ideologically blinkered.I'm not touting the Obama war machine, which pretty much runs on MIC/military orders, no WH orders, and is unstoppable, not under control by civilians like the Exec.
Do you really think Obama does more than OK what the military/CIA dreams up and proposes (when they even bother to tell him) to keep their funding going and their careers padded with make-work?.
Do you think Obama takes the initiative to dream up and push hard for planet-wide military invasions to murder people?
Upstream you said "no orders from the WH," suggesting Obama has no role in military matters and indeed, is not even kept in the loop.
Still, thanks for admitting the president is both Commander in Chief of the military and head of the executive branch and that his ok might be more than a mere formality.
You can't give him credit for killing OBL and ousting Qaddafi, and then say the military functions without his authorization and input.
(well, you can say it, but it's plainly illogical)
I'm saying Obama rubberstamps what the MIC dreams up, rather than taking initiative to direct MIC into new (mis)adventures.
dubya/ head, otoh, blatantly pushed the MIC into invading Iraq (disaster) thereby starving Afghanistan of resources (disaster).
I'm not defending the very disappointing Obama, but his Exec is certainly not the exact copy of dubya/ head's Exec.
Negative economic impact.
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