you first
"If the libs didn't squeeze military pay so much,"
It's the Repugs who want to totally redo and reduce military retirement plan.
It was under Clinton that the VA (and FEMA) got fixed and strengthened such the vets' approval rating of VA is higher than Human-Americans' approval rating of for-profit insurance scammers.
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I am going to write a letter proposing state senators to change their state laws to ins ute proportional representation. I have talked to a law professor and a federal judge and they have confirmed there is not Cons utional basis or federal dictate for districts as they are drawn up and ins uted beyond equal power in individuals votes.
I am figuring there are about 2000 or so state reps across the country but only one legislature hast o try it. See if I can stir any interest. If not then at least I can say that I tried.
As for the VA. My commentary was more about how the article was thinly veiled partisan bull and how they could really give a about veterans.
Really?
What percentage of veterans dead due to lack of health insurance is acceptable?
Nothing but nonpartisan finger-pointing? Way to rise above.
Make sure you sign the letter:
Regards,
FuzzyLumpkins
That should get their attention.
I would not color all conservatives with the same brush. There are reasonable moderates.Let's see:
Conservatives are:
Anti-intellectual (they "embrace simpletons")
Anti-science
Pro-rape (ask Joe Biden)
Racists
Want children to go hungry
Want elderly to eat dog food
And now, they want veterans to die
Got it.
By the way, that study was very scientific.
But , let's go down the list.
Anti-intellectual
See how long it takes you to find the word "elite" or "elitist" on fox news commentary, or for that matter in any of the websites you seem to frequent. Sarah Palin. Herman Cain. 'nuff said.
Anti-science
Anti-evolution, anti-global warming, anti-birth control, when anything approaching scientific evidence contradicts your pre-existing beliefs, you ignore it. You yourself have directly questioned the integrity of every climate scientist who has concluded that AGW is true. So you can off if you want to pretend you don't contribute to this perception.
Pro-rape (ask Joe Biden)
That is silly, and wasn't meant in much seriousness. Biden is a goober for having said it..
Racists
Most conservatives are not racists. Most racists are conservative. Deal with that reality.
Want children to go hungry
When you cite anecdotal evidence of abuse of social welfare programs, while ignoring studies showing that there is little overall abuse, then use that anecdote as a reason to advocate getting rid of "handouts", you would punish children for their parents faults. see "anti-science" above.
Want elderly to eat dog food
When you advocate getting rid of social safety nets under the illusion that charity has the capacity to pick up the slack, this will happen. Cut back on Medicaid/Medicare benefits as has been directly proposed this year, and you will force seniors to choose between food and medicine.
Does this sound a bit polemic?
Yes. I have come to the conclusion, after long years of dealing with dishonest hacks like yourself, that there is a rather strong undercurrent of all of this in conservative politics.
There are indeed moderate conservatives who realize the depths of ignorance and stupidity on that end of the political spectrum. Sadly, they are being driven out of power by the screaming asshats like you, Yonivore, et al.
The more moderates are demonized and marginalized, the more true this polemic becomes of the GOP itself.
I try not to be cynical about this, but this primary season brings out the rather stark reality that the GOP has veered too far to the right. Playing to the base is one thing, but some of the things being said to cater to the tea party are out right insane, as is the fact that this extremist rhetoric and pushing of phoney/empty ideas is far and away something I have not seen in my adult lifetime.
If you are not appalled, you are either not paying attention or doing the screaming yourself.
it's typical of the last thirty years imho. a bit more extreme, but not much different in tone or emphasis.as is the fact that this extremist rhetoric and pushing of phoney/empty ideas is far and away something I have not seen in my adult lifetime.
there was a world before Obama was elected
Single payor isn't really "partisan" per se, although it can be said to be a complete anathema to the tea party crowd.
I also wouldn't say that someone who says "veterans without health insurance seem to die at much greater rates than those who do have it, we should give them health insurance and access to better health care" is someone who "doesn't give a about veterans."
It *is* a bit manipulative on an emotional level though.
The underlying data jibe with other studies of uninsured populations.
Lack of access to preventive/pallative care will make you more likely to die of preventable causes.
That is not exactly an earthshaking revelation, but it is a conclusion based on what evidence we do have.
It *is* an uncomfortable reality for people who like to say "our free market health care system is the best in the world".
Well played, sir.
Feel free to examine the actuarial data and do your own analyis.
As I said, it seems to jibe with other studies I have seen, and I have not seen any contervaling studies from the Cato ins ute, as much as I have looked for some.
Despite what some would think, I do troll around those kinds of websites looking at their analysis when it come to health care, and have actually found some pretty darn good solutions/data and arguments on occasion. I do like to see the conservative critiques of some liberal arguments on the matter.
Health care is pretty important to me, and I am for what works. Give me some fairly put together data saying somethign doesn't work, and I will give a policy solution less credence.
The asinine le of the OP remains the elephant in the room that you seem to not notice.
a little good natured ribbing never hurt anyone
where's your sense of humor, gloomy gus? that's just RG's high spirits...
*crumudgeon stare*
Guilty as charged.
Hey, I can't constrain my inner-boutons all the time.
FWIW, you are among the crowd that keeps me from getting too cynical about conservatives in general.
Hyperbolic as the le is, consider this:
Given:
1) The data seems fairly clear, i.e. lack of insurance = increased mortality.
and
2) Conservative stance of "no new/increased taxes" as the new Norquistian dogma.
If the choice is raising taxes to pay for the additional health care for veterans, be it vouchers/VA whatever, or the "no new taxes" alternative, AND not having a viable option of your own for fixing the problem, is it altogether a baseless conclusion or statement?
I am perfectly open to a "free market, no tax" solution to the problem. I have seen none to date.
I can only conclude therefore, that the conservative policy above is actually killing people, if I accept the data and that the "no tax increases at all, ever" mantra seems to be the general consensus among conservatives.
To be clear: not all conservatives toe this line. The ones that don't aren't brave enough to buck the herd that I have seen.
If you can honestly say this is a completely irrational conclusion, I will take it all back, AND apologize unreservedly.
If you restrict the solution set to taxes, then I guess its a target rich environment for your narrative....and conclusions are largely unnecessary since they basically become tacit, fait accompli.
I can't believe conservatives allow any taxes to be collected!
Is there an alternative to ramping up funding to the VA and providing coverage to vets that weren't coverd before?If you restrict the solution set to taxes, then I guess its a target rich environment for your narrative....and conclusions are largely unnecessary since they basically become tacit, fait accompli.
I can't believe conservatives allow any taxes to be collected!
I haven't heard of any. That restriction is what I understand the policy solutions to be ATM.
If it needs to be done, it needs to be done.
I don't buy the "cut somewhere else, so we don't ahve to deficit spend" argument. This is something that should exist independent of other things. At least that is my opinion.
I suppose we could avoid raising taxes if you don't mind borrowing more.
(sighs()
politics. I wish reality and solutions were more simple.
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