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    "All signs point to Spurs' Richard Jefferson surviving tonight's amnesty deadline judging by everything Pop told @JMcDonald_SAEN yesterday." - @ESPNSteinLine

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    I have no problem keeping RJ as there just is not anyone better at this point. My only hope is that the signing of Novak will somehow convince Pop to let go of Bonner. Just let go.
    This. Won't happen, but a fan's gotta dream.

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    Amen. The fact the RJ was working out with Leonard over the offseason was a surprise and a testimony to his professionalism.

    As of now, and until Leonard is fully ready to take over, RJ is the best and only available fit for the Spurs SF position. No amnesty.
    I agree 1000%. Kudos to RJ for taking the higher road on this. Even though RJ takes a lot of blame here in SA he is still one of the better SF's in the NBA. I think a combo of RJ/Leonard is a great tandem.

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    We saw what RJ could do against Dallas some time ago when called out by Pop "like dogs".

    That's the RJ we need to see every game, and 2x that in the playoffs. He has the ability, and needs to stop waiting for the team to design a play for him. Get the ball, get it to the hole ( pretend Luke is up there) and get back on defense. He's done it before so it's not like he doesn't know how.

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    A lot of love for on this thread.

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    A lot of love for on this thread.
    Must be what brought you here.

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    The NBA usually doesn't have midnight as a deadline. Deadlines are usually either 2 PM ET or 5 PM ET. It could be midnight but that would be odd, especially since it's a Friday.

    But it's not like David Stern has made much sense lately so who knows.

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    RJ is here to stay. he knows the system and isn't going anywhere.
    I wouldn't say he's here to stay. It's pretty obvious that if we don't use the amnesty or can't unload him in a trade that this will be his last year as a Spur. You can bet that the Spurs will continue to work the phones and try to unload him via trade and hope someone eventually bites. Best case scenario is RJ plays well and improves his trade value.

    Like everyone else said, with the Spurs striking out on Butler and Hill there really isn't much point in wasting your amnesty on RJ at this moment when you can save it for next off-season. Hoping he plays well and trying to move him via trade is the best option we can hope for now and you know the Spurs will still be trying hard to do that.

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    What I was told from a person with a good connection in this matter:

    -Pop called RJ the first minute he was allowed to in order to tell RJ he might be waived.

    -RJ asked how he should handle it. Pop told him: "You know how to handle it."

    -As of practice today, RJ hasn't been told either way.

    -RJ asked a member of the FO to be told of his fate before it hits the media.



    I don't like RJ the basketball player but he's handling this situation about as well as could be expected. As far as the FO, I'm sure they'll talk all the possible time in case something comes up they want to jump on that would require an amnestied RJ.

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    I don't want RJ donning a Spurs jersey anymore. He might be a good guy or whatever, that's not the point.

    I rather have one of the kids, or even ing Steve Novak get his minutes.

    When it's pressure time, RJ will be sitting on the bench anyways. Might as well prepare somebody else for the bright lights.

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    What I was told from a person with a good connection in this matter:

    -Pop called RJ the first minute he was allowed to in order to tell RJ he might be waived.

    -RJ asked how he should handle it. Pop told him: "You know how to handle it."

    -As of practice today, RJ hasn't been told either way.

    -RJ asked a member of the FO to be told of his fate before it hits the media.



    I don't like RJ the basketball player but he's handling this situation about as well as could be expected. As far as the FO, I'm sure they'll talk all the possible time in case something comes up they want to jump on that would require an amnestied RJ.

    Damn Pop

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    I think RJ stays.

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    I also believe that RJ will remain.

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    Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2h
    All signs point to Spurs' Richard Jefferson surviving tonight's amnesty deadline judging by everything Pop told @JMcDonald_SAEN yesterday

    Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2h
    But we gotta wait til midnight to know for sure. NBA teams have 'til MIDNIGHT tonight to use amnesty clause or pocket it 'til July 2012

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    There's simply no reason to use the amnesty clause on him. The Spurs have exhausted the three or four players that could be better than RJ for roughly what they're spending on his position. Getting rid of him benefits the team precisely zero at this point. I could give less than a about the financial impact on the team because they were the ones stupid enough to sign RJ to the extension in the first place.

    If RJ starts the season on the same pace as last year, maybe some dip team will be willing to trade something for him.

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    The Amnestysion

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    If RJ starts the season on the same pace as last year, maybe some dip team will be willing to trade something for him.
    Even if RJ does play amazing, would the Spurs want to take on anymore salary?

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    Even if RJ does play amazing, would the Spurs want to take on anymore salary?
    The Spurs have shown no aversion to throwing good money after bad in this situation. I'd be happy to see them swap RJ's bad contract for a bad contract for a power forward or center who will keep Matt Bonner as a role player.

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    Jefferson isn't the problem...he's not great but we could live with his 10ppg. We would be very happy if Leonard scored 10ppg.

    Our biggest problem is the age of TD and we are not to solve this with another SF.

    Richard Jefferson could be a great addition in the championship years. Now he sucks because we are done.That's all.

    Prince? Battier? Outlaw? Josh Howard?? Do you really think we will be much better team if we could change RJ for one of them? I'm not so sure.Maybe we could be better but far away to be champions again.

    Imo the easy way it's to blame jefferson but our problem is a lot bigger

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    and the last stage is acceptance.

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    No point is cutting him. We have to pay him anyways, might as well use his warm body.

    This is a sped up, condensed season so we'll need his legs anyways. We struck out on all our potential signings but thats no reason to cut RJ.

    Best case, he plays hard and tries to earn his contract, worse case, he gets benched and rots but remains a good pro and doesnt up the locker room chemistry.

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    Great... gotta see this worthless in the black & silver again.

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    RJ is part of the problem, and that's why he has to walk. He isn't the only problem, but you have to start addressing the problems somewhere. For starters, his contract is terrible, no team wants to touch with a 10 foot pole, which makes him untradeable, and it's basically one of the very few assets we have to improve the team.

    With the amnesty, at least the Spurs can offset a bit the loss as opposed to just waiving him and open up quite some reasonable cap room in addition to TD's contract coming off the books next season.

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    RJ is part of the problem, and that's why he has to walk. He isn't the only problem, but you have to start addressing the problems somewhere. For starters, his contract is terrible, no team wants to touch with a 10 foot pole, which makes him untradeable, and it's basically one of the very few assets we have to improve the team.

    With the amnesty, at least the Spurs can offset a bit the loss as opposed to just waiving him and open up quite some reasonable cap room in addition to TD's contract coming off the books next season.
    If Billups got picked up for only $2 million, then I don't see anyone with cap space snatching his ass up.

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    If Billups got picked up for only $2 million, then I don't see anyone with cap space snatching his ass up.
    Well, are you ready for 3 more years of him? Last year he'll be gobbling up $11 million of cap space... fml

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