wow ...
is that seriously your argument? do you truly want to stick with that?
son out of the Saints 11 wins this season they have only "played from behind" in ONE of them which was the third game of the season at Houston when they went into halftime down 16-10. please at least look up the facts before spewing pure stupidity like that. now out of the Packers wins, they have "played from behind" against Carolina (down 13-7 at half) and Minnesota (down 17-13 at half). also the same argument about stat padding could be said about Rodgers padding his stats in those games because they were playing from behind as well as in the 3rd and 4th quarters against scrub teams. that is a argument to use.
so according to your logic in games that both teams "were playing from behind" in ... the Saints have played from behind in 4 games (counting their 3 losses) and the Packers have played from behind in 3 games (counting their loss today). lol at this being your reason.
What about the Saints losses? Obviously you excluded their losses because it means two more games the Saints were playing from behind then the Packers.
Looks like someone is using the argument. Rodgers padding stats? Really? LOL
Keep sipping the kool aid, son.
read the entire post dumbass
If we are talking about overcoming ty defenses, Brady would win it in a landslide.
lol at that ignorant fool saying that Brees is stat padding because in FOUR games this season the Saints have been playing from behind, but his golden boy Rodgers isn't stat padding when doing the EXACT SAME THING when the Packers were playing from behind in THREE games this season or when running up the score against scrub teams.
dumbass wants his cake and to eat it too! pot meet kettle!
You got a response to the Saints two additional losses, dumbass?
read the damn post. do you even understand the game of football?
son at this point in the season its a toss up between who the better team is. There is NO DOUBT that the Packers deserve a slight edge considering they only have 1 loss, but they barely squeaked by the Saints in the HOME OPENER of the season. If you think that the first game of the season determined who the better team was, then LOL at you. Both teams have losses to scrub teams, but the Packers have only lost once and the Saints twice so they get the nod.
This thread is about two individual players and their stats and only a fool would look at the stats and the facts and come to the conclusion that Aaron Rodgers is hands down the best. its a toss up.
Did you know that the Saints have played from behind going into the 4th quarter in 5 games this year? Did you also know that the Packers have never been behind entering the 4th quarter? Usually when a passing team is behind they will throw the ball. There's your reason Brees has higher stats. It has nothing to do with being a better football player.
Its not a toss up who the better team is. Packers are 13-1. Saints are 11-3. Do you understand the game of football, son.
Going into today Rodgers passer rating is 123.3. Brees is 105.9. Choke on those stats, dumbass.
Last edited by Spurtacus; 12-18-2011 at 09:51 PM.
Going into todays games...
Brees has attempted 105 more throws then Rodgers.
Rodgers avg 9.42 yards an attempt. Brees 8.04.
So genius tell me who would have more yards if passing attempts were even?
Brees recievers >>>> Rodgers recievers.
Esp today. Rodgers did not suck vs KC Chiefs.
8 balldrops at minimum.
lol funny how you conveniently leave out today. why?
because Rodgers rating was under 90 and Brees's was nearly 150.
and that is exactly why the touchdown/interceptions argument is pure ignorance. Rodgers would have just as many and probably more interceptions if he threw the ball as much.
also ... Brees is much more accurate and his completion percentage proves it. he is nearly at 72% now while Rodgers is steadily declining to almost 67%.
Those are the current season ratings before todays games, dumbass. Clearly you don't understand the game of football if you think one game tips the rating to Brees' favor.
LOL
Assumption is the mother of all ups.
Dropped passes count against the quarterback.
no they are not stupid. go back and look they have yet to update them. they are still showing Brees at 32 touchdowns whenever he had 5 today (37 total). they usually don't update the stats until Monday you dumb .
look at their yardage and all of the other stats. add em up and you'll see that they have yet to update today's stats into it.
You took too long to reply to my post, dumb . Check it out again.
You're still an idiot if you think Brees will pass Rodgers in overall QB rating based on todays games.
Ok, fine. When they update tomorrow you'll see Rodgers > Brees in QB rating.
LMAO! NICE TRY BUDDY!
you quickly edited your post once you realized your up. good try though.
I called you out for your false claims of those being the updated stats, then the fact that you conveniently left out today's games.
no. you're the idiot for making ignorant assumptions, editing your post after realizing your numerous mistakes, and then putting words in my mouth. I never once said that "Brees will pass Rodgers in overall QB rating based on todays games".
it will however be much closer. Brees owns Rodgers in nearly every stat category and is steadily chasing him down on the QB rating as well.
oh look, updated stats
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/stats/p...r?&_1:col_1=10
Rodgers 120.1
Brees 109.1
Brees 41.6 passing attempts a game
Rodgers 33.8 passing attempts a game
Hmm I wonder why Brees has more passing yards?
I edited my post because I knew you would be a snobby dumbass. I didn't leave out today's games because on purpose. I had no data. Until now.
What a sad pathetic troll you are.
I actually like Brees. But to say he's better then Rodgers based on passing yards and completion percentages if flat out laughable.
You sir win for "Best Troll of the Day"
Drew Brees is playing like the NFL's MVP
Minneapolis - A month ago it seemed a foregone conclusion that Aaron Rodgers would win the NFL's Most Valuable Player award. But Drew Brees might just be passing his way back into the race.
Make no mistake, Rodgers remains the overwhelming favorite to win the league's most prestigious individual award, and at this point, it would take an epic meltdown for the Packers' quarterback to lose it. But as we enter the season's final fortnight, Brees is making a furious late push for consideration. His numbers are simply too overwhelming to be ignored.
Sunday was another monster, record-setting passing day for Brees as the Saints mauled Minnesota 42-20 at Mall of America Field. He completed 32 of 40 passes for 412 yards and five touchdowns. For the fifth consecutive game, he didn't throw an interception.
It's the first time in NFL history a quarterback has completed 80 percent of his passes while throwing for 400 yards, five touchdowns and no interceptions. In other words, no passer has ever been so efficient AND so prolific in the same game.
And Brees did this in a little more than three quarters. He watched the final 12 minutes and 50 seconds of play while wearing a white baseball cap as backup Chase Daniel assumed mop-up duty in the empty stadium down the stretch.
The most remarkable thing about Brees' performance was it didn't even stand out among his recent string of stellar efforts.
Since the embarrassing loss to the Rams in Week 8, he's passed for an average of 339 yards a game, completed nearly 73 percent of his throws, while throwing 18 touchdowns and only one interception.
The Saints have won all six games during that span and kept pace with the 49ers for the No. 2 seed in the NFC playoffs. The Saints are just two wins away from matching the most successful season in club history, the club-record 13-3 mark of 2009. And with both remaining games scheduled for the Mercedes-Benz Superdome, where the Saints are unbeaten this season, you have to like their chances.
"You really can't put it into words," receiver Marques Colston said. "... The things he does on the field speak for themselves."
So do the numbers, which, at this point, almost require an advanced math degree to comprehend.
Sunday marked the 11th time this season Brees has passed for 300 or more yards in a game. That's an NFL record. It was the seventh time he's topped 350 yards, also an NFL record.
His five touchdown passes gave him 37 this season. That's a new club record.
Meanwhile, he extended his streak of consecutive games with a touchdown pass to 41, which is the second longest streak in NFL history, and stayed on pace to break his own NFL mark for completion percentage in a season and eclipse Dan Marino's 27-year-old record for passing yards in a season. Oh, and the 573-yard offensive onslaught he directed kept the Saints on pace to break the 2000 Rams' NFL record for total yards in a season.
"Drew is playing outstanding," Saints Coach Sean Payton said. "We have two weeks left in the season and he is having a great year, and obviously Aaron is having a great year. ... We don't really focus on the postseason stuff in regards to awards."
While Brees' numbers are unquestionably MVP worthy, it appears he will once again play Susan Lucci to some other winner. No great player in league history has experienced such unfortunate timing in regards to the MVP race. In 2006, he was worthy of the award but Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for an NFL-record 28 touchdowns. In 2008 and 2009, he also was in the hunt but was outdone by Peyton Manning. This season Rodgers has a mind-boggling 40-6 touchdown-to-interception ratio and is on pace to set a league record for passer efficiency rating.
"I would definitely vote for Drew for MVP, but I don't think he's going to get it," left guard Carl Nicks said. "Everybody is on Aaron Rodgers' (band wagon), and rightly so. It's well-deserved. But Drew's numbers are staggering."
Sunday was another day of dizzying statistics for Brees and the Saints. At one point, they had outgained the Vikings by this-is-not-a-typo 412-0 in passing yardage. Midway through the third quarter they had three times as many first downs as the Vikings had completed passes.
By the second half, the contest was so clearly in hand the Saints seemingly were choosing which players they wanted to score.
Tight end John Gilmore, a blocking specialist by trade, was delivered his first touchdown pass as a Saint, a 2-yarder in the third quarter.
The final score was "gifted" to Pierre Thomas, who celebrated his 27th birthday Sunday.
"I kind of peaked at the scoreboard late in the game and it said 'Drew Brees, passer rating 140.5, five touchdowns, zero turnovers,' and I just shook my head," tight end Jimmy Graham said. "He's just a special player. ... In my opinion, there's no better quarterback in the NFL."
Brees needs 305 yards to reach 5,085 passing yards and eclipse the record Marino set in 1984. Fittingly, his pursuit of the hallowed milestone will have the appropriate stage. Next weekend's game against the archrival Falcons will be played on "Monday Night Football" before a nationwide audience.
"It's great to have a front-row seat to watch that happen," defensive end Will Smith said. "... I would love to see him go out there and beat it, and I don't think he's just going to beat it, I think he's probably going to shatter it."
And even then, after passing for more yards in a season than any quarterback in NFL history, it likely won't be enough to win the MVP. If the award goes to Rodgers as expected, Brees will have unequivocally recorded the greatest non-MVP season in NFL history. No player has ever played so well and not won it.
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