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    Sad news. McDyess was a class act. Good riddance.
    lol, gay.

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    Does taking this partial contract off the books give us the full MLE?
    Nope.

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    So long to one of the Spurs who gave 100% effort against the Grizz. Can't say that for everyone.
    McDyess played his absolute heart out. Tough way to go out but couldn't have done it any better. One of the most passionate performances I've ever seen, and he did it all while his back was shot.

    Great career for a great guy, kudos Dice

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    lmao Bonner and Blair frontcourt.

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    As for the Spurs not being able to turn this unguaranteed contract into anything ... I ... I ... I have no words for you. This has been the weirdest offseason ever. I don't even know what to think.
    Yes this offseason has been flat out horrible, they have no shot at winning it and we know it. Last years team was just reassuring of that, now they appear to have gotten worse.

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    Thanks for everything Dice! This guy really seemed to give it his all everytime he stepped on the court! Major props!

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    Too bad, he was a solid bigman.

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    Pop says every season he'll give Timmy the help he needs, knowing this may be Tim's final season with us. Instead of the bringing help he needs to make sure he goes out on top like David did, he turns his back on him.

    He doesn't care about the team anymore. He doesn't have the hunger it seems.

    If Mark Cuban owned the team, Pop would have been out the door already.

    Pop.
    I agree he just doesn't have the sense of urgency. I also think it's part of why he's never repeated. He tries to remove the pressure on the team to compete for a championship. All last season he was saying they weren't a good team instead of putting pressure on them to improve. Sometimes you really need to embrace that pressure to take the next step.

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    It's too bad the Spurs couldn't have acquired him about 5 years before they did.

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    I can't wait until Splitter goes down, which shouldn't take too long. Then we'll see if this dumb, senile old man doesn't think they need "just anyone to play minutes". Since they obviously had no designs on bringing in quality, they at least needed quan y. This is a soft team, that has zero respect and will continue to receive that.

    So, what's his plan when he wants to manically monitor Duncan's minutes and even sit him out the odd game? Play the two offensive liabilities together or split them up and have at least one pairing that's a massive defensive liability?

    The pathetic, sorry excuse for a front line get's ripped to shreds last season by any half decent big, culminating in that embarrassing playoff performance and this is their response? Do they really think anyone buys that they care about defense anymore? Don't piss in people's ears and tell them it's raining.

    I don't know how Duncan could allow this. He should have went berserk a few years ago, but especially after last season. Should have demanded that they brought in size, even if the best they could do was a Turiaf type. Instead, he, Ginobili and Parker, continue to put on a brave face for the cameras and pretend. Meanwhile, they've allowed the dumb, senile old man and the drunk piss away whatever slim chance they still had at contending. Well done.

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    I can't wait until Splitter goes down, which shouldn't take too long. Then we'll see if this dumb, senile old man doesn't think they need "just anyone to play minutes". Since they obviously had no designs on bringing in quality, they at least needed quan y. This is a soft team, that has zero respect and will continue to receive that.

    So, what's his plan when he wants to manically monitor Duncan's minutes and even sit him out the odd game? Play the two offensive liabilities together or split them up and have at least one pairing that's a massive defensive liability?

    The pathetic, sorry excuse for a front line get's ripped to shreds last season by any half decent big, culminating in that embarrassing playoff performance and this is their response? Do they really think anyone buys that they care about defense anymore? Don't piss in people's ears and tell them it's raining.

    I don't know how Duncan could allow this. He should have went berserk a few years ago, but especially after last season. Should have demanded that they brought in size, even if the best they could do was a Turiaf type. Instead, he, Ginobili and Parker, continue to put on a brave face for the cameras and pretend. Meanwhile, they've allowed the dumb, senile old man and the drunk piss away whatever slim chance they still had at contending. Well done.
    Agreed on all counts. Of course no team wants to bring a guy in "just to fill minutes", but if your frontline consists of one star in his twilight, one largely unproven player, one undersized center, and two guys who are just to big too play at the wing position like they should....imo it becomes a necessity. If even one of our real bigs goes down, Spurs might as well send out perfumed invitations to the paint. Couple that with a complete lack of perimeter defenders capable of keeping guys out of the paint, and a defensive scheme that insists on helping off your man and having players switch despite whatever mismatch might be created....opponents will be feasting like Thanksgiving every game.

    And heaven forbid if Duncan AND Splitter are forced to miss time (which isn't that far outside of the realm of possibility....say Splitter gets injured, and its the third night of a B2B2B), we're suddenly looking at a frontline of two 6'10 non-rebounding three point shooters (Bonner and Novak), and two 6'7 wanna be PFs. (Blair and Kawhi).

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    When Duncan was younger, he seemed a lot more vocal about the FO keeping a talented supporting cast around him. I agree that I cannot see how he didn't lobby for more frontline support. Of course, we never know what goes on behind closed doors. However the one thing is clear, by allowing the situation to become this dire, Pop has really screwed the pooch on this - and thus has really screwed his future HOF big man. Duncan absolutely deserved much better than this.

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    I can't wait until Splitter goes down, which shouldn't take too long. Then we'll see if this dumb, senile old man doesn't think they need "just anyone to play minutes". Since they obviously had no designs on bringing in quality, they at least needed quan y. This is a soft team, that has zero respect and will continue to receive that.

    So, what's his plan when he wants to manically monitor Duncan's minutes and even sit him out the odd game? Play the two offensive liabilities together or split them up and have at least one pairing that's a massive defensive liability?

    The pathetic, sorry excuse for a front line get's ripped to shreds last season by any half decent big, culminating in that embarrassing playoff performance and this is their response? Do they really think anyone buys that they care about defense anymore? Don't piss in people's ears and tell them it's raining.

    I don't know how Duncan could allow this. He should have went berserk a few years ago, but especially after last season. Should have demanded that they brought in size, even if the best they could do was a Turiaf type. Instead, he, Ginobili and Parker, continue to put on a brave face for the cameras and pretend. Meanwhile, they've allowed the dumb, senile old man and the drunk piss away whatever slim chance they still had at contending. Well done.
    Your sooo right. Why, after last season's debacle, didn't Tim, Manu, or Tony, demand that Pop and RC bring in a quality, starting big? Who gives a that no viable free agent wants to sign in S.A., or that the Spurs are capped out. Dammit one of the big 3 should of forced RC to break out his magic wand and get Dwight's ass wearing silver and black pronto!

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    Your sooo right. Why, after last season's debacle, didn't Tim, Manu, or Tony, demand that Pop and RC bring in a quality, starting big? Who gives a that no viable free agent wants to sign in S.A., or that the Spurs are capped out. Dammit one of the big 3 should of forced RC to break out his magic wand and get Dwight's ass wearing silver and black pronto!
    When are you and all the other front office apologists going to stop making excuses? No one was expecting a star or anything close. But even if they couldn't have gotten someone in Turiaf's class or a cut above (which I don't buy, with a decent package of McDyess, Blair and a 1st, at their disposal), their was Wright, Clark, McRoberts, Murphy, the two Williamses', etc., that all signed at very affordable numbers. They could have easily exceeded what many got and forced their hand. But worst of all, we didn't even hear them mentioned as being interested in any. In fact, the only big we've heard of them being interested in is Kaman.

    They didn't even try. It came across loud and clear in today's article about how they "don't want just any center". They did what they always do: nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else. And now they're pretending they're "being patient", as if someone is just going to release a decent big for no reason, because that happens all the time.

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    Too bad we got him a few years too late. Image if we had the 2005-2008 version of Dice.

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    When are you and all the other front office apologists going to stop making excuses? No one was expecting a star or anything close. But even if they couldn't have gotten someone in Turiaf's class or a cut above (which I don't buy, with a decent package of McDyess, Blair and a 1st, at their disposal), their was Wright, Clark, McRoberts, Murphy, the two Williamses', etc., that all signed at very affordable numbers. They could have easily exceeded what many got and forced their hand. But worst of all, we didn't even hear them mentioned as being interested in any. In fact, the only big we've heard of them being interested in is Kaman.

    They didn't even try. It came across loud and clear in today's article about how they "don't want just any center". They did what they always do: nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else. And now they're pretending they're "being patient", as if someone is just going to release a decent big for no reason, because that happens all the time.
    Seems to me that they waited too long. The music has all but stopped on the abbreviated NBA free agency period, yet the Spurs are still standing around with their thumbs up their rear.

    It there are no other frontline options available, and the FO is going to continue to take such a passive approach, then I agree with others who have suggested that they may as well begin the slow rebuilding process now. Trade Parker, ac ulate as many future assets as they can get (to go along with those they already have), secure the highest draft position possible - and let's go. There's absolutely no sense in ing around on this "treadmill of mediocrrity?" Becoming a perennial 7th or 8th seed also ran in the playoffs gets you nowhere. Blow it up and start all over.

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    When are you and all the other front office apologists going to stop making excuses? No one was expecting a star or anything close. But even if they couldn't have gotten someone in Turiaf's class or a cut above (which I don't buy, with a decent package of McDyess, Blair and a 1st, at their disposal), their was Wright, Clark, McRoberts, Murphy, the two Williamses', etc., that all signed at very affordable numbers. They could have easily exceeded what many got and forced their hand. But worst of all, we didn't even hear them mentioned as being interested in any. In fact, the only big we've heard of them being interested in is Kaman.

    They didn't even try. It came across loud and clear in today's article about how they "don't want just any center". They did what they always do: nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else. And now they're pretending they're "being patient", as if someone is just going to release a decent big for no reason, because that happens all the time.
    Not apologist, just a realist. Look at this teams history. Trot out the names of all the great free agents that the Spurs have brought to S.A.? For whatever reason, money, location, etc..., prime free agents do not want to sign with the Spurs. But please provide your source on the fact that the Spur's FO " didn't even try. Now lets go over some of the possible bigs you've mentioned: By Wright, I take it you mean Brandon? A sf, not a big, who so far has been a lottery pick. Clark made it known all along that his top choice in free agency was to return to Orlando. a Clark quote stated in the Orlando Sentinel:


    "I'm used to my teammates," Clark said. "I think it was a good fit here, and I like the organization. My family's here. I just love Orlando."

    As far as Murphy and McRoberts, I can understand why they picked the Lakers over the Spurs. So I can understand why your pissed at the lack of free agent activity by the Spurs front office, I am too, but given the Spurs lack of trade assets, as well as their cap situation, quit whing so much and hope the Spurs can, somehow, find a big.

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    Dice was gr8 for us! he'll probably be picked up for a ship run with a team next year ala PJ Brown with the Celts.

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    I can't wait until Splitter goes down,
    Are you serious? You can't wait for a Spurs player to get injured? Why, so you can prove your point? So you can say "see, I told you guys...".

    I have no idea where you and anyone else who agrees/sympathizes with you are from but anyone with this mentality obviously isn't a true fan.

    Do I agree w/ everything that Pop and the FO has done? No, but I'll be the 1st to mention that I dont' know everything they've done.

    I DO know that they brought 4 championships to a small market basketball team in the 3rd largest city in the state. Besides Detroit, what other small market team has one championship in the last 40 years?

    Spurs fans are spoiled.

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    Are you serious? You can't wait for a Spurs player to get injured? Why, so you can prove your point? So you can say "see, I told you guys...".

    I have no idea where you and anyone else who agrees/sympathizes with you are from but anyone with this mentality obviously isn't a true fun.

    Do I agree w/ everything that Pop and the FO has done? No, but I'll be the 1st to mention that I dont' know everything they've done.

    I DO know that they brought 4 championships to a small market basketball team in the 3rd largest city in the state. Besides Detroit, what other small market team has one championship in the last 40 years?

    Spurs fans are spoiled.
    seriously, what a tool. is he in jr high or something? stick to the WWE storylines.

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    And the music officially stops. The Spurs don't have a chair.

    Thanks, Dice. It was fun.

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    Thanks Dice. A class act and good luck in the future.

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    Dice was one of the few players the Spurs ever had that never showed any quit. He played every game like it was his last and gave everything he had to help the Spurs win. He wasn't afraid to call out his own pussyass teammates for being es and lazy.

    Thanks Dice!

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    Not apologist, just a realist. Look at this teams history. Trot out the names of all the great free agents that the Spurs have brought to S.A.? For whatever reason, money, location, etc..., prime free agents do not want to sign with the Spurs. But please provide your source on the fact that the Spur's FO " didn't even try. Now lets go over some of the possible bigs you've mentioned: By Wright, I take it you mean Brandon? A sf, not a big, who so far has been a lottery pick. Clark made it known all along that his top choice in free agency was to return to Orlando. a Clark quote stated in the Orlando Sentinel:


    "I'm used to my teammates," Clark said. "I think it was a good fit here, and I like the organization. My family's here. I just love Orlando."

    As far as Murphy and McRoberts, I can understand why they picked the Lakers over the Spurs. So I can understand why your pissed at the lack of free agent activity by the Spurs front office, I am too, but given the Spurs lack of trade assets, as well as their cap situation, quit whing so much and hope the Spurs can, somehow, find a big.
    I specifically said "no one was expecting a star or anything close" and I then went about listing affordable third-fifth big type options. I don't need a source, it's called common sense. If they wanted someone, they'd have gotten one of the names I mentioned.

    Wright is a PF, genius. Shawne Williams wanted to stay with the Knicks, too. But the money and opportunity with the Nets was too much to pass up. Supposedly Clark got a little over $1 million annually on a 2 year contract. If the Spurs offered him $2, he's not turning that down. Just like if they offered Murphy $2 or a little more, instead of the $1.4 he got and told him he'd have a shot to eventually start, he's not turning that down.

    Lack of trade assets and "cap situation", my ass. The Lakers found a way to get two of the better low cost bigs available. The Celtics damn near got a near All-Star caliber big. The Knicks did get a near All-Star caliber big. Not a single one had cap space, but they found a way to fill their needs or at least gave it their best shot. These cheap assholes nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else.

    Hope they "somehow find a big". Right, because solid bigs are always inexplicably cut for no reason. They'll probably bring Cousin back if/when he's waived by the Rockets, waive Lawal and act like they'd solved their issue. Meanwhile, they'll continue to get destroyed inside, especially once Splitter goes down and Duncan wears down.

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