Twin Towers.

[z0sa]

If Pop/RC wanted to have the Twin Towers again, we should have done everything short of trading both Tony and Manu for a capable big. They didn't. If you have a problem with the Spurs current philosophy, you know exactly who to peg it on (hint: it's not one of the players).

[jjktkk]

If Pop/RC wanted to have the Twin Towers again, we should have done everything short of trading both Tony and Manu for a capable big. They didn't. If you have a problem with the Spurs current philosophy, you know exactly who to peg it on (hint: it's not one of the players).

The problem was, is, what it takes to land a "capable big man"? And my definition of a capable big man, would be a starting 4, or 5. Like you said, outside of trading Parker, or Ginoboli, the Spurs haven't had any valuable trade assets to acquire a capable big man. And since capable bigmen are at a premium in this league, it will take trading tp, or manu to get a capable big. For this year, imo, the Spurs were trying to acquire a rotation big, not neccessarily a starter.

[007nites]

I remember last year when Pops went with this line up:

PG Parker
SG Hill
SF Neal
PF Ginobili
C Jefferson

[z0sa]

The problem was, is, what it takes to land a "capable big man"? And my definition of a capable big man, would be a starting 4, or 5. Like you said, outside of trading Parker, or Ginoboli, the Spurs haven't had any valuable trade assets to acquire a capable big man. And since capable bigmen are at a premium in this league, it will take trading tp, or manu to get a capable big. For this year, imo, the Spurs were trying to acquire a rotation big, not neccessarily a starter.

I agree. And in the z0sa world of Spurs trades, Manu+filler might be gone in 2010 for Haywood/Butler so we could try to regain our lost defensive zeal as well as hope for a healthy team. I would have been wrong with the Butler injury but that's just more proof of why no trade is foolproof, no player combination unsusceptible.

But RC and Pop saw it fit not to do so. It is what it is. Instead of longing for the twin towers of old days, get used to run and gun and try to enjoy it, fellas..

[jjktkk]

I agree. And in the z0sa world of Spurs trades, Manu+filler might be gone in 2010 for Haywood/Butler so we could try to regain our lost defensive zeal as well as hope for a healthy team. I would have been wrong with the Butler injury but that's just more proof of why no trade is foolproof, no player combination unsusceptible.

But RC and Pop saw it fit not to do so. It is what it is. Instead of longing for the twin towers of old days, get used to run and gun and try to enjoy it, fellas..

Right there with yea.

[therealtruth]

I agree. And in the z0sa world of Spurs trades, Manu+filler might be gone in 2010 for Haywood/Butler so we could try to regain our lost defensive zeal as well as hope for a healthy team. I would have been wrong with the Butler injury but that's just more proof of why no trade is foolproof, no player combination unsusceptible.

But RC and Pop saw it fit not to do so. It is what it is. Instead of longing for the twin towers of old days, get used to run and gun and try to enjoy it, fellas..

Haywood's not worth it. There's a reason why Chandler started over him. The Mavs defense has disappeared without Chandler.

[Dex]

translation: another dumbass poster who thinks bigs is the only way to win les.

Name the last NBA champion that did not have at least one dominating center or power forward.

[Man In Black]

Name the last NBA champion that did not have at least one dominating center or power forward.

Either the 1975 Golden State Warriors or the 1979 Seattle Supersonics
Although GSW had good PF in 6-9 Cliff Ray who got 10 Rebs per game and a skinny 6-11 center in George Johnson who got 7 boards per.

Seattle won with Balance but they did have a decent scoring forward in Jack Sikma who also got 12 rebounds per that year and they also had Offenive Rebound machine Paul Silas who was a master at it even though he is only 6'7".

[TimmehC]

Name the last NBA champion that did not have at least one dominating center or power forward.

Bulls.

[Obstructed_View]

Name the last NBA champion that did not have at least one dominating center or power forward.

The Bulls.

[Dex]

Bulls.

The Bulls.

I was thinking of the Bulls as well, but you'd have to go back to the first threepeat. Threepeat 2.0 had former-DPOY and rebounding champ Dennis Rodman manning the 4. , even the first threepeat had Horace Grant and Bill Cartwright, but they weren't exactly dominating....just serviceable.

Still proves the point I'm trying to make. You have to go back 18 years before you find a champion without a dominating inside presence, and all that took was the greatest player to ever play the game and the winning-est coach.

[benefactor]

Pistons could also be a candidate. Sheed was playing more on the perimeter than posting up when he came to Detroit. They won mostly because of team defense.

[Dex]

Pistons could also be a candidate. Sheed was playing more on the perimeter than posting up when he came to Detroit. They won mostly because of team defense.

Ben Wallace was at his defensive prime at that time, and Rasheed was also a force to be reckoned with inside defensively.

Besides, we all know how important it can be when your bigman can also spread the floor.

[benefactor]

Yeah...I was talking about that end of the floor. I thought you were referring to needing a dominant big for offensive purposes.

[NFO]

Greg Ostertag is trying a comeback. Sign him up. There is your twin towers.

[The_Worlds_finest]

It sounds like a sound theory because it is a sound theory. It's how teams win championships. It's why the Spurs immediately tried to replace Robinson with Nesterovic. And it's why they've spent the past 10 years trying to find a quality bigman to pair with Duncan. They've certainly tried, but their inability to do that has likely cost them multiple les.

Its one way to win championships....