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My concern with OKC is whether or not a big 3 of Durant, Westbrook, and Harden will be good enough. The supporting cast is an easily fixable problem, but I don't see that core ever going all the way.
I think you guys who have Presti letting one of Harden and Ibaka walk are crazy. The only expensive contract he has for a marginal player is Perkins, and his deal expires the year after they'll have to reup Ibaka and Harden. I think they'll bite the bullet and pay the tax for a year or two. Besides, that really punitive luxury tax kicking in for 2013-14 will seriously lower the market value of both of them anyways.
My concern with OKC is whether or not a big 3 of Durant, Westbrook, and Harden will be good enough. The supporting cast is an easily fixable problem, but I don't see that core ever going all the way.
^Jesus Christ, wtf have you been?
Wow...smh.
Your only concern is the T-Wolves now
Ibaka, Sefalosha, Perkins, and Collison is a pretty damn good supporting cast IMO. I don't think they'd beat Miami this year, but it's not like the Heat are the late 90s Bulls with LeBron's inability to finish games.
Damn OKC locking up their key players early. Good move
westchuck sucks
Westbrook's not worth $16M, but he and Durant together are totally worth $32M. If it wasn't for max salaries, we'd see Durant getting $23M and Westbrook getting wildly overpaid by some other team.
My question: is Love with the max? Not sure. He gets good rebounding numbers and his offense has improved, but is he a franchise player?
Even shooting 43% right now Love is definitely a max player for the rebounding, range, and outlet passes.
he's been living a real life not concerned with you, learning and preparing to WORK and make a lot of MONEY.
i don't get it
Why do people still think only franchise players get max contracts?
DoK is right. Plenty of guys that aren't "franchise players" get max. There is a range and only a few guys are actually "franchise players, but all players in the range get max. It's probably not the smartest idea, but even if a guy is likely worth a million or two less (sometimes more) you can't haggle due to the compe iveness of the market. I definitely think Durant/Harden/Westbrook is worth keeping together and all they need is a Tyson Chandler-type (Perkins is solid for them, but not enough) and they are a legit contender for years.
This contract is definitely too much, but even though I think he's overrated Westbrook is still a great little talent and it was obvious that they would have to pay that much to keep him.
The fact that Collison is okcs best scoring bigman is a problem. The thunder need a scoring bigman. Until they do address that, they arent winning a le.
tbh not sure why they even consider bringing Perkins back. One of the most overrated players in the game. Outside of fake intimidation and being lucky enough to be the starting center on a team with four all stars around him, I'm not sure what value he really brings
He's definitely not the defensive-anchor type of a TC, 2003 TD, et al, but he's a good enough low-post defender who's been able to hold his own on the block w/o the help of double-teams. Not worth his $$, and I agree he's been on stacked teams, but he's still decent
Agree with DD. He's actually worse now that he's lost weight IMO, but he's still a solid low post defender. They need to add too him, he can't be their man anchor defensively. I know I've brought it up a lot, but damn if OKC hadn't voided that Tyson trade Mavs would still be ringless and OKC may have been champs
I thought he failed a physical and the trade was voided?Agree with DD. He's actually worse now that he's lost weight IMO, but he's still a solid low post defender. They need to add too him, he can't be their man anchor defensively. I know I've brought it up a lot, but damn if OKC hadn't voided that Tyson trade Mavs would still be ringless and OKC may have been champs
But yeah, TC on that team would've been a recipe for WC dominance for the next several years
Edit: I thought you said "avoided"...nvm
There's only three guards in the NBA that are worth that money. Paying max contract to your third best player seems a little too high imo
lmfao westbrick
worst PG in the league
solid take
Exactly. I'm not a Westbrook fan at all but it's better to keep him off the open market then let him leave for nothing.
While I agree with Dok's skepticism about their core, this is a good move IMO..
Their core has been close to the NBA finals, they're young, and their conference is weak..it's not worth breaking up and hoping for a better fit than Westbrook IMO..his problems are mostly mental IMO, so the potential is still there..
I don't believe OKC will win a le, but they will be a perennial contender, with their current roster..
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