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Duncan's been dying for defensive help since Rasho and Nazr left. Oberto, and to a much lesser extent, Horry were decent, but the lack of help defensively has likely worn down Duncan as much as anything over the last four or five years.
I agree with the D for Pop.
Parker had an A+ until he came down and took that insane three point shot while there wasn't a Spur under the basket to rebound, for that he gets a fat F...average his grade out and he gets a kind B.
Tiago hopefully has finally silenced his critics and has proven that he belongs not only as a starter, but as the Spurs number one low post option, even, yes even, when Tim is on the floor. <<Insert criticism here>> That is fine, I don't have to defend Tiago anymore, he does it all by himself.
Nothing but the utmost respect for TD, but like Dave did for him when he arrived, it is time for Timmy to step aside and save his legs for defense, and let Tiago take over down low. If Pop is willing do allow this (I honestly know Tim is), then the Spurs defense improves, and we have more consistent/dynamic low post scoring.
I know I will catch for the aforementioned statement, but so be it.
Father Time has found TD, as he finds the best of the best. Father Time cares not who you once were, nor does he care how much money you have...he simply, slowly and methodically creeps up upon you and overtakes you.
Tim will continue to be capable, and may even deliver a 30 point game here and there, but nobody can evade Father Time. Experience is a wonderful tool to have, and TD has it in spades, but experience matters not when your mind knows what to do, but your body fails to cooperate...just ask the Boston Celtics.
Tonight was a great night. I am more excited with this loss than I have been with any one single win thus far this year. Tonight Tiago made Pop look truly foolish, like many of us here on Spurstalk had been eluding to for weeks. Tonight was a turning point of sorts... a changing of the guard.
If Pop allows his intelligence to override his stubborness, then tonight the old dusty maps which date back to circa 1999 will be removed from Pop's desk, and a new map will be made. Pop will make proper course corrections, and have them marked clearly on his new map. The captain will call out to the boatswain to pull up anchor and orders will be given the helmsman to head out of port with those new course headings.
With roles redefined, a healthy Manu, TJ back (playing well), and Tony continuing to evolve as a distributer, the future looks bright...maybe not so bright that we have to wear shades, but still bright nonetheless.
If Tiago saves Tim's legs, and we get a stroke of luck health wise, the final chapter to this season may yield an unexpected plot twist.
Viva la Spurs!!
Last edited by callo1; 01-22-2012 at 02:57 AM.
Duncan's been dying for defensive help since Rasho and Nazr left. Oberto, and to a much lesser extent, Horry were decent, but the lack of help defensively has likely worn down Duncan as much as anything over the last four or five years.
tim duncan is a fkn scrub if he/coach think he cant play with splitter or someone downlow...duncan is nothing more then a jumpshooting clown out 18ft and hits it with a very high efficiency on those open shots....
if he cant play with splitter, splitter should demand a trade for playin with around him
I agree 100%, especially when Blair was struggling. At least Thomas may have erased some of those Rocket layups.
Where the did RJ's shot go? The guy couldnt miss the first few weeks of the season. And now the past 4 games his shot has been M.I.A.....wtf??!?!?
Agreed. Rasho was the last solid defender that played next to Tim, with Horry being right there.
All of the playoff games, and the miles have taken their toll. TD is a luxury to have as a second option down low, but we can't expect him to carry the load anymore.
To me, when I look back on it, that '05 run was the hardest on Timmy...the scars on his arms from the brutal pounding of the Sonics series, the injured ankles. That was a hard physical pounding for anyone to take.
You make perfect sense. Splitter would make it easier for TD on offense and defense.I agree with the D for Pop.
Parker had an A+ until he came down and took that insane three point shot while there wasn't a Spur under the basket to rebound, for that he gets a fat F...average his grade out and he gets a kind B.
Tiago hopefully has finally silenced his critics and has proven that he belongs not only as a starter, but as the Spurs number one low post option, even, yes even, when Tim is on the floor. <<Insert criticism here>> That is fine, I don't have to defend Tiago anymore, he does it all by himself.
Nothing but the utmost respect for TD, but like Dave did for him when he arrived, it is time for Timmy to step aside and save his legs for defense, and let Tiago take over down low. If Pop is willing do allow this (I honestly know Tim is), then the Spurs defense improves, and we have more consistent/dynamic low post scoring.
I know I will catch for the aforementioned statement, but so be it.
Father Time has found TD, as he finds the best of the best. Father Time cares not who you once were, nor does he care how much money you have...he simply, slowly and methodically creeps up upon you and overtakes you.
Tim will continue to be capable, and may even deliver a 30 point game here and there, but nobody can evade Father Time. Experience is a wonderful tool to have, and TD has it in spades, but experience matters not when your mind knows what to do, but your body fails to cooperate...just ask the Boston Celtics.
Tonight was a great night. I am more excited with this loss than I have been with any one single win thus far this year. Tonight Tiago made Pop look truly foolish, like many of us here on Spurstalk had been eluding to for weeks. Tonight was a turning point of sorts... a changing of the guard.
If Pop allows his intelligence to override his stubborness, then tonight the old dusty maps which date back to circa 1999 will be removed from Pop's desk, and a new map will be made. Pop will make proper course corrections, and have them marked clearly on his new map. The captain will call out to the boatswain to pull up anchor and orders will be given the helmsman to head out of port with those new course headings.
With roles redefined, a healthy Manu, TJ back (playing well), and Tony continuing to evolve as a distributer, the future looks bright...maybe not so bright that we have to wear shades, but still bright nonetheless.
If Tiago saves Tim's legs, and we get a stroke of luck health wise, the final chapter to this season may yield an unexpected plot twist.
Viva la Spurs!!
On defense TD can spend more effort on help defense and rebounding.
On offense if Splitter can draw attention on the block it will make it easier for TD. With TD's decline we haven't had a player that can draw that double team in the post. If Splitter can do that it can really open up the offense.
No doubt he's about to get black listed, unless the other reporters start backing him up
Exactly! Pop's just a damn liar
Praise for Buck with that article. He still played it safe, but he hit the mark.
The question then comes down to the second unit. If TD and Tiago play together as they should * (A little high-low action please), then you have a situation where Bonner and or Blair is your second team big...not a friendly thought, which is why I would have liked to at least seen Thomas on the floor when Blair was struggling.
The only way I can see having a decent second team is a) put Manu back on the bench and he can help Dejuan score, or b) try to pull the trigger on a trade that dumps Blair, Bonner, and Anderson for a capable second team big.
We all saw Blair's struggles coming. Manu makes Blair a much better player than he can ever be alone.
I don't see any teams rushing in to make a trade for those assets though.
I don't really see any alternative. If we have to settle for the players on the roster now, then Manu must go back to the bench and be our smallball quarterback
i'm actually kind of worried about parker. he's going to be completely burned out by the time ford and manu come back. if pop wants to rest a player, it shouldn't be duncan, it should be parker. duncan barely averages over 25 minutes a game while parker is carrying the entire offense.
Very valid concern. Pop still wants to win, thats why he won't rest Parker, until Manu and TJ get back. If he rested Parker now, it would really get ugly
To the FO credit, they certainly have added good young talent with the following players Tiago, Neal ,Green and Kawhi. To be able to get 4 impact players who from the looks of it will have long term NBA careers and are potential starters. and Using 2 low draft picks (Pick for Hill was used to get kawhi, while Neal & Green are undrafted) is impressive.
If you compare this with what the Celtics have assembled around their big 3, you have to be impressed with what we have done, considering how low our picks in the draft have been.
BTW I really like the Hill trade move of trading up using your young talent. I'm sure we can use Blair and Anderson to trade up. Teams in the middle of the lottery like Indiana in the last draft can be enticed to take Blair and/or Anderson
I am now fully on board with the Duncan / Splitter starting combo. Not because Splitter beasted tonight.... because Blair is a re . Before I'd argue that Blair and Bonner could not play together. They still can't, but Pop needs to pull Blair from the starting five asap. He isn't defending, he's a black hole on offense, and (worst of all) he isn't rebounding anymore. Its frustrating as . He has natural ability despite his size, but he's too dumb to understand his limitations.
One play pretty much sums up RJ for me: it was at about the 7 minute mark in the fourth, Dragic (?) shoots an airball, and RJ is not able to box out Patterson and get the ball despite having the much better position initially.
I'm not mad at him for shooting bad. He had games where he was 5-7 from downtown earlier in the season, so a couple of bad shooting games are to be expected sooner or later. But that he doesn't show the energy and the heart to have more of an impact in a game in which Manu and TD are out - that is just disappointing.
Green was trash too. I wonder if his poor play STILL doesnt provide JA a chance...
Me too.
I believe we have a team good enough to compete in the West.
Ford,Green and Leonard could help the team and we have Splitter. James Anderson doesn't look bad either.
But we have to start with Bonner,Blair and RJ....
I'm nervous because we have a good team but we are going to waste what could be our last chance
You don't have to sit Splitter and TD at the same time .In Miami Bron or Wade were always on the court. Here we can't do the same with an aging TD but we can limit the minutes of the turd towers playing together.
And we usually play minutes with the combo Bonner/Blair now.They were starters yesterday. It's not like they never play together and they should play together because Splitter starts.
Interesting article about Splitter . Everyone sees the same thing I guess, except Pop
Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker are three names that immediately come to mind when thinking of the San Antonio Spurs impact players. However, the player that could play the most important role for the Spurs this season is Tiago Splitter, a second year player from Brazil.
http://www.rantsports.com/san-antoni...iago-splitter/
JA? Really? Lol. Green has played way better so far the only thing u can say about green at this point is that he's inconsistant with his play. JA on the other hand is very consistent at playing like crap lol
where's bill brasky to dispute blair as being part of the one two punch of san antonios Turd Towers
That is a really eff'd up situation going on right now with the media jabs and how Pop seemingly will not start Tiago in order to "spread the manure" and hide the deficiencies of the turd towers yet they get the starting jobs ahead Tiago.
Pop is such a buffoon.
do like to see JA get some mts to play in this month, specially down the road some games
So many people saying we cant play Blair and Bonner combination. Well, after the Houston game, I think we could see something come out of that the will work. Play Bonner and Splitter together. Bonner spreads the court, while Splitter works underneath. It seem to work better than Blair and Bonner or Splitter and Blair. If you recorded the game(like I do), play back the time Splitter and Bonner are on the court together and watch the ball movement. Bonner hit a 3 early and that made a huge difference in the game. This made the Rocket come out to cover him. Splitter then had his way in the paint. Rockets had no one who could handle Splitter. If Duncan would ease out to the 15 to 18 ft mark and let Tiago have the middle, the bank would be open for Timmy and the outside shot he has would be there as well.
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