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I wouldn't say zero, but he's not close enough to that 2003 player for me to want him at his current salary. I'd still trade for him though since he has one less year.
So you agree that what he is now has zero to do with what he was nine years ago.
I wouldn't say zero, but he's not close enough to that 2003 player for me to want him at his current salary. I'd still trade for him though since he has one less year.
I'd rather the team not make the playoffs, build youth through decent draft picks and see who they could bring in with cap space instead of wasting time on SJ. Nostalgia is one thing...the future of the team is another.
My thanks to "Buckets" for what he did for the team in the past...but he's the one who blew that deal with the Spurs by accepting less to go somewhere else just to "prove a point". He eventually got his money and A ring...not in that order...but I think the Spurs did just fine without him in his prime and would probably be better off without him not in his prime.
I know what you're saying, Timvp. I've disagreed with you way more than usual lately, and I really want to agree on this one. But I keep going back and forth. I know how bad Jefferson is, but I also know what Jax does to a team. I finally decided this:
Putting Stephen Jackson on your team is like getting a flu shot. If you're in your prime, and healthy, then the benefits probably don't outweigh the discomfort. But if you're very old or young, or already in bad health, then it may be worth the discomfort for a chance to keep yourself alive longer.
You may be right. Putting Jackson on this team might be an improvement, even knowing the mess that he brings. But if that's true, then it's probably a really good indicator of where this team really is. And you would still have to close your eyes and ignore the possibility of him having one of his breakdowns during a playoff series, when the pressure is really on. As bad as Jefferson is, having Jax on your team is a form of Russian roulette. And he sure isn't any help when he's suspended.
I would take him over RJ, but he's a ty player, at this point..
One of the biggest chuckers in the NBA, inefficient volume shooter..
He wouldn't fit with the Spurs, outside of the toughness he would provide..
need a pf so Bonner/Blair don't have to play in the playoffs
Buckets unfortunately fell off. He was actually quite useful for Charlotte recently, but has been hideous in Milwaukee.
He was the player the Spurs needed to add toughness, defensive versatility and balls from 04-09, possibly even last season - but he isn't the player they need now.
RJ was really good while in Milwaukee so... One can only hope...
Well this might be the first time that I will say no to Sjax. The only way I would trade for him is if we couldn't amnesty RJ and it was a straight trade for the two. I'd take SJax over him any day of the week. He'd bring fire and passion to the team, and better defense, even if he does shoot poorly, whereas RJ brings nothing most of the time when he is shooting poorly.
Sjax is also likely to step up in the playoffs over most of the people on our current roster. A proven playoff performer is a big thing and shouldn't be discounted.
Since we'll have a decent amount of cap space next season though by amnestying RJ, I'd probably not want to do the trade even if it were available.
My first priority is a big.
Sjax > RJ
we know this
But even down the road, barring any drastic injuries, I would not mind whatsoever if the Spurs somehow get him back for a vet's minimum or LLE or something like that where he's a guy in his last seasons and the Spurs get him for the bench.
Stephen Jackson is awesome. If we weren't a top 4 cheapest team of all time we'd have kept him and prob won 4 straight les
Did I say NO?
I think I'll change it to a yes. A lot of Spurs players have no HEART AT ALL.
Both, most likely. The cancer is metastatic already.
The risk far outweighs the benefit. I think i have to agree with gsh
Jack isn't playing badly because he suddenly got old, He's dogging it because they won't give him an extension. That's some ed up , and nothing we need any part of. It wouldn't suddenly stop if he were transplanted to another team, including SA.
So you are saying a Jax for trade would be great.....
BTW - Milwaukee kicked Miami's ass tonight. Jax with 9 minutes, and a nearly empty stat sheet.
Not just no,
but NO!
I agree. I am sure Jefferson's play will pick up when Manu and TJ get back. He plays better with those guys especially in his role on the second unit with Ford.
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