Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses

[boutons_deux]

"the electoral system was designed so candidates had to campaign in more than just the most populous regions."

and resulted in heavily campaigning intensively only in battleground/swing states.

[Winehole23]

A number of communities were not included in that poll because they had not held their caucuses in time. Washington County Republicans postponed their caucuses, originally scheduled for Saturday, Feb. 11, because of a pending snowstorm and will now meet this Saturday. Other communities across the states also have caucuses scheduled for this weekend and later this month.


All along, state GOP officials said communities knew that their votes would not be included in the final results if they did not hold their caucus by Feb. 11.


However, a review of the town-by-town results released Saturday by the Maine GOP suggests that some communities that had caucused prior to Feb. 11 were not counted. Nearly all Waldo County towns held caucuses on Feb. 4 but those towns were blank in the results released by the state party. Additionally, Waterville held its caucuses ahead of time but were not included in the results.


Waldo County GOP Chairman Raymond St. Onge said the results were sent to the state party on Tuesday, Feb. 7. He said those results probably would not have changed the outcome but was disheartened the votes were not included.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/1...consideration/

[Winehole23]

“I spoke with Chairman Webster [Saturday night] to express my strong view that our votes must count and to make the point that they certainly will count in the court of public opinion and in the media,” Senate President Kevin Raye of Perry said Sunday in a post on the Facebook page of Dean McGuire, president of Machias Bay Area Chamber of Commerce. “The fact that our local Republican leaders placed the safety and well-being of their friends and neighbors ahead of politics should in no way lessen the importance of our votes in the nonbinding straw poll.

same

[SA210]

RP would have won, they fear him. They didn't want the news to be that RP won a state.

[Winehole23]

RP would have won

do you have something -- anything -- to back this up, or is this just a hunch?

[SA210]

do you have something -- anything -- to back this up, or is this just a hunch?

RP has been doubling his vote count and support compared to 4 years ago. I believe he would have won, and if not, the media and others sure thought it was possible, by doing what they did. They just didn't want to risk the possibility.

“In Washington County – where Ron Paul was incredibly strong – the caucus was delayed until next week just so the votes wouldn’t be reported by the national media today,” said John Tate, Paul’s campaign manager, in a statement late Saturday night. Tate dismissed the rationale that the caucus had to be canceled due to snow, saying the weather wasn’t that bad.
“The votes of Washington County would have been enough to put us over the top,” he said....

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Paul...cus-tally.html

[Winehole23]

Romney won by roughly 200 votes statewide.

In 2008, 113 Republicans caucused in Washington County, MA. 8 of them supported Ron Paul. It's very doubtful Washington County would've put RP over the top.

[SA210]

They sure were scared about it

[Winehole23]

it was a non-binding caucus. not much to be scared of, tbh.

[SA210]

it was a non-binding caucus. not much to be scared of, tbh.

So you are for not letting people vote?

And sure there's much to be scared of, he would have gotten publicity on television for winning which would change the whole race. That matters, which is why they did this.

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[Winehole23]

So you are for not letting people vote?

I'm all for letting people vote and counting the votes too. What gave you the impression I wasn't?

And sure there's much to be scared of, he would have gotten publicity on television for winning which would change the whole race. That matters, which is why they did this.

If ifs and but were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

lol "they"

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Yea, They

[Winehole23]

you're fussing over window dressing. the real action is at the precincts when they nominate delegates. that hasn't happened yet. I presume you are familiar with the meaning of the word non-binding.

[cheguevara]

[Winehole23]

sloppy seconds, El Che

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...3&postcount=38

[Winehole23]

The Maine Republican Party, under fire from Ron Paul supporters for its mishandling of the state’s recent caucuses, is now re-canvassing counties and municipalities to recount vote totals.


POLITICO obtained an email from the State Republican Party asking local chairmen to send them the vote totals from their local straw polls.

“County Chairman & Town Chairman,” an email written by a state Republican Party staffer reads. “We are reconfirming the totals from the Presidential Preference Straw poll. Can you please EMAIL ME the totals from your towns. For County Chairman if you are emailing the total for your entire county can you please list the towns that are included.”


The letter was forwarded by a longtime Republican activist in Maine.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1mezAHuJ0

[Winehole23]

The Maine Republican Party, under fire from Ron Paul supporters for its mishandling of the state’s recent caucuses, is now re-canvassing counties and municipalities to recount vote totals.


POLITICO obtained an email from the State Republican Party asking local chairmen to send them the vote totals from their local straw polls.

“County Chairman & Town Chairman,” an email written by a state Republican Party staffer reads. “We are reconfirming the totals from the Presidential Preference Straw poll. Can you please EMAIL ME the totals from your towns. For County Chairman if you are emailing the total for your entire county can you please list the towns that are included.”


The letter was forwarded by a longtime Republican activist in Maine.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1mezAHuJ0

[SA210]

Romney won by roughly 200 votes statewide.

In 2008, 113 Republicans caucused in Washington County, MA. 8 of them supported Ron Paul. It's very doubtful Washington County would've put RP over the top.

Now imagine if they let the other counties be counted as well.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...county-caucus/

(AP) Ron Paul has gained 83 votes on Mitt Romney following a Republican presidential caucus in eastern Maine, where voting last week had been postponed due to bad weather. Romney still holds a 156-vote lead over Paul in statewide totals.


Paul received 163 votes in Saturday's Washington County caucus, where Republicans from more than two dozen towns gathered to cast their votes. Romney received 80 votes. Rick Santorum got 57 votes and Newt Gingrich received four votes.


The Maine Republican Party last week declared Romney the winner of the state's GOP caucuses, but Washington County Republicans were angered their votes weren't counted after their caucus was postponed last Saturday because of a snowstorm.


County Chairman Chris Gardner says the state party should include the caucus tally in the final results.


The Republican State Committee will consider the request next month.

[Winehole23]

it's the Iowa caucuses all over again. but even if the putative Maine winner, Romney, turns out to be the loser again, all that was lost (again) was a non-binding caucus, and he received a bump from initially being reported the winner.

it remains to be seen if RP outperforms his own returns at the polls when delegates are nominated, as widely predicted in these pages.

it's politics. unexpected things sometimes happen. Romney is looking more and more like a gigantic turd every minute, and Santorum is rumored to be unelectable...

[SA210]

It is impressive for a candidate who gets no coverage. And when he does they trash him. Versus all the other candidates that are heavily talked about and promoted by the msm. It would be interesting to have seen how it would have been if it were fair. Very interesting, but that's not the world we live in.

[Winehole23]

Maine's republican party announced Friday that it will recount votes cast in the state's non-binding GOP caucus, which initially showed a 194-vote victory for Mitt Romney.

The state's GOP chairman Charles Webster released a statement Friday announcing the party is working "diligently to contact town chairmen throughout Maine" to independently verify the results from each of the counties' caucuses.

Webster told Politico that the state party made clerical errors during vote tabulation Saturday, and that some E-mailed results filtered into a spam folder.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,4219570.story