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    I hope he can get a couple minutes here and there. New players are very interesting to watch, especially if they are picked up by the Spurs. Normally when I hear about a new player coming the the Spurs I get all giddy because this is the organization that has found some pretty good pieces before. Heres to hoping that they found a diamond in the rough! (Unlikely, but it never hurts to be optimistic.)

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    lol smh

    we have a lot of talent in San Antonio. Dawson from Sam Houston and Ivan Johnson(atlanta hawks) from Fox Tech.
    Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.

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    Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.
    And Shaq.

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    Unfortunately I was limited to the "smokin" emoticon since everyone associated with the decision to call him up was paranoid that any leak could start the 10-day contract a day early ... even though I'm not even sure that's how it works

    As for Dawson, when I've watched him in the past, he's never looked like an NBA player. I mean, he's been around the Toros for five years and I don't think the Spurs ever thought highly enough of him to even invite him to training camp. And when he was on the summer league team, he barely played ... and didn't look very good when he did play.

    That said, his stats are a lot better this year. He also looks like he's in much better shape. Perhaps he got in shape, got healthy and made a sudden improvement in his game. Unlikely but I guess possible.

    I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it but the Spurs picking Dawson makes me believe Splitter's injury isn't overly serious. I doubt they go with Dawson as even a semi long-term fix. Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock".
    He was always getting injuries that would take up huge amounts of his seasons if not end them altogether. He simply hadn't missed any games due to injury this season; I guess his conditioning reflects this, though he does seem to wear down over the course of a game. In contrast, Leo Lyons just played a full 48 in Dawson's absence and continues to put up call up-worthy numbers.

    Solid D is right that Dawson is the only Toro with the bulk to play center though he is a bit short. In fact he might be the only guy left in the D-League that really fits the strong bulky center description of any worth. We'll have to see if he gets the chance to play. He does have enough range (key jumper) to conceivably play with Duncan FWIW.

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    tbh he's probably an NBA player, it's just up to him to show it. If he has a midrange jumper at all there's a good chance he can play in the league. Literally, the only two things Jason Smith are good at is being a 7 footer and having a good midrange jumper.

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    "Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock". TIMVP


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    tbh he's probably an NBA player, it's just up to him to show it. If he has a midrange jumper at all there's a good chance he can play in the league. Literally, the only two things Jason Smith are good at is being a 7 footer and having a good midrange jumper.
    Were Dawson a 7 footer, he probably would have been drafted.

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    Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock".
    That's kind of funny because Eric would usually spend at least part of the D-League season playing in Asia. He actually left this season to take Davis Bertans' place on Union Olimpija but the deal fell through.

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    Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.

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    Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.
    Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

    Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

    Chuck Hayes
    Paul Millsap
    Clarence Weatherspoon
    Leonard Robinson
    Larry Johnson
    Ben Wallace
    Dennis Rodman
    Wes Unseld
    Charles Barkley
    Elgin Baylor

    Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.

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    Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.
    Dennis Fembo (Pistons) from Fox Tech.

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    Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.

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    Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

    Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

    Chuck Hayes
    Paul Millsap
    Clarence Weatherspoon
    Leonard Robinson
    Larry Johnson
    Ben Wallace
    Dennis Rodman
    Wes Unseld
    Charles Barkley
    Elgin Baylor

    Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.
    This idea about having to be 6'10 or taller at PF or C position to be good should have ended after Zach Randolph killed the spurs last season..

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    Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.

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    not sure if mentioned yet, but he will be with the team tonight:

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    10-day signee Eric Dawson joined team in SLC for tonight's game vs. Jazz. Former SA prep star will wear 23

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    Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.
    Another blast from the past. I remember Dembo getting on the cover of SI, while at Wyoming. A pretty big deal back in the day for a local kid.
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    Another blast from the past. I remember Fembo getting on the cover of SI, while at Wyoming. A pretty big deal back in the day for a local kid.
    Fennis Dembo, actually.

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    Fennis Dembo, actually.
    I blame the cat for walking on the keyboard.

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    I blame the cat for walking on the keyboard.

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    Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.
    lol smh

    we have a lot of talent in San Antonio. Dawson from Sam Houston and Ivan Johnson(atlanta hawks) from Fox Tech.
    Outlaw and Najera (JJay) as well

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    He'll only get garbage minutes or if another big gets injured and that's it. Based on the Spurs' upcoming schedule it looks like he won't get any PT at all.

    Pop will stick to small ball with RJ/Kawhi playing PF.
    I don't think we'll see him or small ball tonight, so long as both Duncan and Blair aren't in foul trouble and the game doesn't become a blowout.

    The Jazz have too physical and rugged a front line to play small against. The only possibility I see is Leonard on Favors, because he won't necessarily hurt them in the post.

    Against the Trail Blazers and Nuggets, I expect to see plenty of small ball. The Trail Blazers play plenty of it to begin with and the Nuggets often go to it against the Spurs.

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    I don't think we'll see him or small ball tonight, so long as both Duncan and Blair aren't in foul trouble and the game doesn't become a blowout.

    The Jazz have too physical and rugged a front line to play small against.
    Physical and rugged is Dawson's bailiwick.

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    Physical and rugged is Dawson's bailiwick.
    So I've heard. I just don't get the sense Pop will play him though, unless one of the two situations arises that I mentioned.

    I get the sense that Pop will treat this as the game to go all out for. They're coming off a day and a half off and the Jazz had to travel overnight. The Trail Blazers and Nuggets games could be much tougher, given that they're both quality -- if overrated -- teams that have been struggling mightily lately and are due for an extended stretch of quality play.

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    So I've heard. I just don't get the sense Pop will play him though, unless one of the two situations arises that I mentioned.

    I get the sense that Pop will treat this as the game to go all out for. They're coming off a day and a half off and the Jazz had to travel overnight. The Trail Blazers and Nuggets games could be much tougher, given that they're both quality -- if overrated -- teams that have been struggling mightily lately and are due for an extended stretch of quality play.
    We'll see. We haven't been down a big man due to injury for an extended time. It's certainly Dawson could draw quick fouls or simply not be effective if Pop does try him.

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    Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

    Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

    Chuck Hayes
    Paul Millsap
    Clarence Weatherspoon
    Leonard Robinson
    Larry Johnson
    Ben Wallace
    Dennis Rodman
    Wes Unseld
    Charles Barkley
    Elgin Baylor

    Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.
    For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.

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