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    i question some of you guys basketball intelligence. why in the would you not want this guy? Boris Diaw. This guy can finish around the rim, a little above average low post defender, has the ability to block shots, shifts feet very well off pick & roll in order to show and recover, and even has a decent post game. why would you not want this guy? Got to be ing kidding me.

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    Hopefully Danny Ferry and Danny Green can convince him to come here.

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    Interesting development. Spurs should clearly try and get him.

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    Right now, he's a much worse defender than Blair or Bonner. It might be difficult to believe but he is. His defensive IQ is Drew Gooden-esque.

    That said, he's young, athletic, can rebound and has enough skill to be blossom at some point. But there's just no way he'd be anything but the fifth big this season, IMO. Just too bad defensively.

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    Yea. He's only 23 and I would guess he'll end up somewhere like Washington or Charlotte. It wouldn't surprise me if he'd sign with Boston, they have big problems with their frontcourt. Just can't think he'd want to play 10-15 minutes right now.
    Boston might be a good fit. Or even S.A. It's not just about playing time. He needs a staff that knows how to develop a big man with talent. Spurs have a pretty good record with that and if he is good, then he will get better.

    Boston is pretty good at development as well.

    Sacramento has not been so good. Great players make it no matter where you send them. But good players just need to find the right fit. Obviously Sacramento wasn't that good. But he played well with Lebron. Maybe he even goes to the Heat. They need a big man.

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    Holy moly. That's all that needs to be said. Spurs have to try and get him. He's young and full of potential and has been on teams that couldn't utilize said potential. In SA, it will be utilized correctly. Forget Turiaf and Diaw, you get JJ.

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    what was the reason for the buyout? Isnt he still on a rookie contract?

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    Right now, he's a much worse defender than Blair or Bonner. It might be difficult to believe but he is. His defensive IQ is Drew Gooden-esque.

    That said, he's young, athletic, can rebound and has enough skill to be blossom at some point. But there's just no way he'd be anything but the fifth big this season, IMO. Just too bad defensively.
    This guy can definitely defend dating back to him guarding Gasol and Bynum when he played for the Cavs. That has never been one of his downfalls.

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    Right now, he's a much worse defender than Blair or Bonner. It might be difficult to believe but he is. His defensive IQ is Drew Gooden-esque.

    That said, he's young, athletic, can rebound and has enough skill to be blossom at some point. But there's just no way he'd be anything but the fifth big this season, IMO. Just too bad defensively.
    But is he bad defensively because the Kings are bad defensively? I haven't watched this guy play much. No question he was seen as up and coming when he played on a good team...Cavs/Lebron. He flamed out in Sacramento, but I see that as a place kind of like the Bobcats, they screw up young players. For example, I think Fredette, as limited as he is, would be way better in a different system.

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    Tbh, I'm shocked the Kings weren't able to trade him somewhere for at least a second round pick. There must be something more to the story that isn't in the public for his stock to plummet this far.

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    Blair Can't do this.

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    Right now, he's a much worse defender than Blair or Bonner. It might be difficult to believe but he is. His defensive IQ is Drew Gooden-esque.

    That said, he's young, athletic, can rebound and has enough skill to be blossom at some point. But there's just no way he'd be anything but the fifth big this season, IMO. Just too bad defensively.
    i'd rather him start alongside duncan than blair.

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    He shoots 37 percent. How does a big man shoot 37????

    + Versatile big man who can finish at rim. Takes too many jumpers.

    + Solid athlete but hugely mistake-prone on defense. Overmatched as a center.

    + Has poor instincts at both ends. Very good rebounder. Improved left hand.

    In his third season, Hickson showed signs of cashing in on his offensive promise. He averaged nearly a point every two minutes while turning a somewhat robotic post game into one with a bit more variety and deception. Cleveland gave him plenty of opportunities, as he ranked fourth among centers in usage rate. On many nights, his post game was its main half-court offensive threat.

    His biggest problem was that he shot a lot of jumpers and only made a few of them. Hickson shot 32.8 percent beyond 10 feet but attempted more than four shots a game from that distance. And when he caught the ball, it was almost always to shoot it. Hickson ranked 63rd among centers in pure point rating; between that and his low-efficiency shooting, he was an empty trip machine. While he had to be somewhat selfish because of Cleveland's limited alternatives, it's fair to say he went overboard.

    One good sign, however, was his progress over the course of the year. Hickson had two-thirds of an awful season and one-third of a pretty good one; after the All-Star break he averaged 16.8 points, 10.8 boards, increased his shooting percentage and slashed his turnovers. He even got a few assists.

    No matter what version of plus-minus you were using, Hickson's numbers last season were atrocious. That's partly because of the low-efficiency, high-volume offense. But the other part was his defense; Hickson was a bad power forward trying to play center, where he was even worse. Synergy rated him as by far the league's worst center, while opposing centers cruised to a 19.2 PER against him according to 82games.com. It wasn't his one-on-one play, however, as much as the botched rotations and help defense no-shows that got him in trouble. In his defense, he was in help situations a lot because the Cavs' perimeter defenders were so weak.

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    You'd have to think the Spurs have an advantage with Ferry. The guy that drafted him and believed in him enough not to trade him. Come on, JJ, bring your talents to SA.

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    This guy is thousand times better than Blair and Bonner. Have you guys watched him? I find that hard to believe when you state such stupidity.

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    He shoots 37 percent. How does a big man shoot 37????

    + Versatile big man who can finish at rim. Takes too many jumpers.

    + Solid athlete but hugely mistake-prone on defense. Overmatched as a center.

    + Has poor instincts at both ends. Very good rebounder. Improved left hand.

    In his third season, Hickson showed signs of cashing in on his offensive promise. He averaged nearly a point every two minutes while turning a somewhat robotic post game into one with a bit more variety and deception. Cleveland gave him plenty of opportunities, as he ranked fourth among centers in usage rate. On many nights, his post game was its main half-court offensive threat.


    His biggest problem was that he shot a lot of jumpers and only made a few of them. Hickson shot 32.8 percent beyond 10 feet but attempted more than four shots a game from that distance. And when he caught the ball, it was almost always to shoot it. Hickson ranked 63rd among centers in pure point rating; between that and his low-efficiency shooting, he was an empty trip machine. While he had to be somewhat selfish because of Cleveland's limited alternatives, it's fair to say he went overboard.

    One good sign, however, was his progress over the course of the year. Hickson had two-thirds of an awful season and one-third of a pretty good one; after the All-Star break he averaged 16.8 points, 10.8 boards, increased his shooting percentage and slashed his turnovers. He even got a few assists.

    No matter what version of plus-minus you were using, Hickson's numbers last season were atrocious. That's partly because of the low-efficiency, high-volume offense. But the other part was his defense; Hickson was a bad power forward trying to play center, where he was even worse. Synergy rated him as by far the league's worst center, while opposing centers cruised to a 19.2 PER against him according to 82games.com. It wasn't his one-on-one play, however, as much as the botched rotations and help defense no-shows that got him in trouble. In his defense, he was in help situations a lot because the Cavs' perimeter defenders were so weak.



    Thats bull . Put him with Tim Tony and Manu and those numbers automatically increase.

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    Tbh, I'm shocked the Kings weren't able to trade him somewhere for at least a second round pick. There must be something more to the story that isn't in the public for his stock to plummet this far.
    This. How a guy with so much upside and an expiring contract couldn't be shopped at the DL means there must be a skeleton somewhere.

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    This guys fallen so much. From the Cavs refusing to give him up for Amare to him failing to get playing time on the Kings to being bought out of his rookie contract.

    We should go after him but something is up with him (lack of work ethic? unhappy with teammates/coach? just isn't very good?) and I doubt he ever reaches the potential that was hyped for him.

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    This guy can definitely defend dating back to him guarding Gasol and Bynum when he played for the Cavs. That has never been one of his downfalls.
    Defense has always been his downfall. The Cavs could hardly play him because he never rotated to protect the basket. I didn't know he graded out as the worst defensive center in the entire league as it says in that scouting report ... but it doesn't surprise me.

    Now obviously in the Spurs system, he will look better. Duncan can still cover up a lot of mistakes. But there's no way he's an upgrade over Bonner and Blair right out of the box on the defensive end of the court.

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    they have to try & get him. signing him for a couple season would make up for giving up the 1st round pick to Golden State.

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    It looks like Adrian Woj(restofname) deleted a tweet that said the Spurs are the front runners at landing Hickson.

    Edit: Not true. It was a fake tweet being circulated.
    Last edited by Buddy Holly; 03-19-2012 at 04:58 PM.

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    This is a funny one. Apparently he was traded from Cavs because he could not pick up the new offense had some type of problem with Byron Scott. http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...th-jj-hickson/
    He played for Mike Brown didn't they run a lot of Spurs stuff


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    This guy is thousand times better than Blair and Bonner. Have you guys watched him? I find that hard to believe when you state such stupidity.
    I completely disagree. I'm sure the Kings would have taken Blair in a heart beat for a guy rather than giving him away with no compensation. Probably same with Bonner.

    Even if he gets a block now and then, that doesn't make him a great defensive player. Just like if Bonner gets a block or a steal no one is going to push him as a candidate for defensive player of the year. And he has gotten a block or a steal this year.

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    Would rather have him than Blair. If JJ is a bad defender then Blair is a terrible defender. And the Spurs could only help him improve, what I don't see Dejuan did from his rookie season.

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