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    And WTF? Manu still won't play b2b. That's ridiculous. Either he is breaking down or Spurs are too cautious. The Ginobili case is damn worrisome and is one of the main reason why Spurs can't be considered as a true contender right now.
    Just cautious. Pop knows another setback means the season is over for the Spurs. Acts accordingly.

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    It totally makes sense to get mad at Tiago for being injured.

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    I don't think this team needs to worry about Splitter's availability all that much. He only averages 20min per game and has missed 6 this season. We're 5-1 in those, with the only loss being the Portland forfeit. He's just not that important to this team, especially given the depth we recently added. And this board overrates his value 10-fold.
    So an efficient seven foot player that shoots 60% on field goals and improves the defense isn't that important.

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    Just cautious. Pop knows another setback means the season is over for the Spurs. Acts accordingly.
    I thought they got SJax for insurance.

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    They have already said that Manu won't play b2b for the remainder of the season.
    How do you develop chemistry if he's out of the lineup every other game?

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    They have already said that Manu won't play b2b for the remainder of the season.
    Calling BS on this. Show me the link where they said that.

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    This is the pink elephant in the room on SpursTalk right now, tbh. I think secretly we're all kind of holding our breaths right now waiting to see Ginobili's re-emergence as the efficient offensive "PER" juggernaut he once was.

    Manu did make it pretty clear that it'll take him a solid 15-20 games to get back into game shape, and we've seen flashes here and there that suggest that Ginobili still has it (flashes in the form of entire games - he had an efficient 17 point performance against New York followed by 22 point performance against LAC, or flashes in the form of specific plays, i.e. Manu driving it hard to the rim and dunking over a 7 footer in the Philly game), but like you I'm not ready to call this team a true "tier 1" contender (a la Miami/Chicago) until I see Manu put together consistent offensive performances.

    I think the most worrisome aspect about Manu's crippled offensive game right now is his inability to get to the free throw line. Every tier 1 contender has 1 or 2 "slasher" type guys that can get to the free throw line when the offense isn't going well (Durant/Westbrook/Harden for OKC, Wade/Lebron for Miami, Rose/??? for Chicago). We have Tony Parker at the moment, and that's pretty much it.

    Of course this is not to say the Spurs can't contend with a "65%" or "70%" Manu. We could always get lucky and have a role player or two step up in key playoff games. Or, we could have Bonner/Neal/Green go for 5-7 on 3 point shots to swing a game or two in our favor.
    I don't think he's getting much respect from the refs right now. He drove to the basket plenty the last game and seemed to get fouled three or four times and didn't get any calls. If he keeps going to the rim, he'll eventually get his reputation back with the refs and start getting to the line.

    I think he's pretty rusty in a lot of respects and still trying to get his game back as far as going behind the back with the ball, going through double-teams, taking risks, and each game he does a bit more.

    His whole career though, he's been pretty consistent in the regard that he scores if he feels the need to score. Right now the team has so many guys that can score 10-20 pts, I think he sees himself more as a passer. The bench has a lot of guys who can knock down open shots and he's got pick-and-roll guys in Tim, Blair and Tiago, so I don't think he feels an urgency or responsibility to put up like 15 shots a game.

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    How do you develop chemistry if he's out of the lineup every other game?
    No different than when you develop chemistry on a normal regular season: playing every 2 or 3 days.

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    I don't think he's getting much respect from the refs right now. He drove to the basket plenty the last game and seemed to get fouled three or four times and didn't get any calls. If he keeps going to the rim, he'll eventually get his reputation back with the refs and start getting to the line.

    I think he's pretty rusty in a lot of respects and still trying to get his game back as far as going behind the back with the ball, going through double-teams, taking risks, and each game he does a bit more.

    His whole career though, he's been pretty consistent in the regard that he scores if he feels the need to score. Right now the team has so many guys that can score 10-20 pts, I think he sees himself more as a passer. The bench has a lot of guys who can knock down open shots and he's got pick-and-roll guys in Tim, Blair and Tiago, so I don't think he feels an urgency or responsibility to put up like 15 shots a game.
    Good points. Yeah I agree it'll take him a while to re-establish his rapport with the refs.

    It probably sounds strange to be worrying so much about "offense" on a team that currently ranks 3rd in pace-adjusted offensive production. I just hope he's capable of taking over a game offensively by getting to the line during the playoffs should enough of our role players fall flat.

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    I don't see the point of letting Splitter traveled with the team if he is doubtful for both game. He would surely recover from his back injury better in SA.

    And WTF? Manu still won't play b2b. That's ridiculous. Either he is breaking down or Spurs are too cautious. The Ginobili case is damn worrisome and is one of the main reason why Spurs can't be considered as a true contender right now.
    I think it is nothing ridiculous.

    Ginobili from the way he is playing now seems to be rounding to form - he is slashing more, scoring more in the paint and is relying less on three pointers - and where his early season super-accuracy is expectedly experiencing a fall. In other words, he is not breaking down as his play evidences. The only concern in his play is his individual defense and that is also a work in progress as he picks up steam during the course of the season.

    So, play wise, there is little to be worried about Ginobili.

    What is to be worried about is whether he will be injury free and considering that he has had two freak injuries already - hand fracture and oblique strain - it is expected that Pop will play his hand to err on the side of caution. With our sound position in the standings, Pop can afford to do so.

    Hopefully he does a similar thing limiting the extended minutes that Parker is made to play because of this and rotates the both of them well.

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    Calling BS on this. Show me the link where they said that.
    This was 6 days ago:
    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...rview-todo-red

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    As far as chemistry is concerned, every team has to deal with this lockout schedule, along with injuries. It helps, imo, that the Spurs have the big 3 to help out new teammates in Jack and Diaw, plus the fact that they both have some familiarity with the Spurs system. As far as Splitter goes, its a bit more troubling, but I like the fact that Splitter has been able to produce in limited minutes this season, and I'm banking on him to do the same in the playoffs, provided he can stay somewhat healthy.

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    At the people complaining why Splitter can't play and be healthy all the time, it's better to be injured now than in the playoffs, IMO

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    I'm pretty sure Splitter could play if they wanted him to play, but Spurs will rather wait till he's 100%. And this Manu b2b bull is just funny. Can't the guy play about 25 minutes 2 days in a row. Glass team all the way.

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    i'm pretty sure splitter could play if they wanted him to play, but spurs will rather wait till he's 100%. And this manu b2b bull is just funny. Can't the guy play about 25 minutes 2 days in a row. glass team all the way.
    crap

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    5 games in 6 days. we knew Pop will sit players during that span, even if it costs a game or two. Spurs still won the first 3. so, even less reason not to rest players. if he doesn't play Manu, this means more minutes for Jackson in that game, which is a good thing for him getting familiar with the team.

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    mountainballer with the goods as usual.

    We all knew this was going to happen with 5 games in 6 nights. Why is everybody acting all surprised? Stop this saggy diaper syndrome and get over it.The playoffs are what matter, not the regular season championship.

    Remember what month it is.

    SPAM.

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    A frustrating dilemma to be sure, but right now, its not affecting the Spurs in the standings. We Spur fans just have to keep hoping that the team is healthy come playoff time.
    My concern isn't about health. If Manu doesn't have another injury, he should be fine in one month when the playoffs starts.

    I'm worried about being ready for the playoffs. Spurs have a lot of relatively new players (Jackson, Diaw, Mills, Leonard, Green...). Getting some chemistry before the playoffs is important. Spurs' rotation must be set and Pop has a lot of work in that area. If Ginobili doesn't play b2b, it will be even harder to do all that work.

    There are 19 games left. Some games should be tanked to give some rest but, in the other games, Spurs should start to play with a playoff like rotation that is to say with Manu.

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    Calling BS on this. Show me the link where they said that.
    Happy now? Stop being a got and suck that .

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    I'm going to tonight's game in Phoenix. I really hope Manu plays this game.

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    Happy now? Stop being a got and suck that .
    That statement seems to run contrary to itself.

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    The Spitter injury is irritating. Hopefully he doesn't mildly strain something in the playoffs and miss games.

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    That statement seems to run contrary to itself.

    tbh

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    Happy now? Stop being a got and suck that .
    bene with the goods

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    Pop probably doesn't want to repeat last year's mistake of letting Manu get injured in a meaningless end of season game. I don't blame him; I don't want to see that either.

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