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    Mills is a PG. Neal ain't.

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    Don't rock the boat.

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    I'm kind of surprised that Batum is so ineffective defensively since that was supposed to be his strength coming into the league.
    Batum's defensive numbers are even worse this year ... he's now by far the worst defender on the Blazers. I'm not exactly sure what happened to him but he was a good defender early in his career but he's fallen off a cliff. His impact defensively on the Blazers is even worse than Blair's impact on the Spurs, surprisingly enough.

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    You all missed his point

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    I've been saying something similar for awhile now but not with the notion of benching Neal. I would rather let Neal slide over and take most of Greens minutes while letting a true PG run the 2nd unit. Of course with the way Danny has continued to play it's hard to make a case against him. Just not sure how all our Guards are going to rotate come playoff time.

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    Mills should be the backup point guard and Diaw should take the place of Blair. We all want those to happen. But the sad truth is that it hardly happen at the end of season unless somebody get hurt or the Spurs start losing games. Last season until the loss to the Lakers Pop kept Blair at starting center.

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    Manu seems to be running the offense when Tony isn't in the game. But if both are out then Mills should be the PG.

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    LOL at the notion of playing Patty Mills to improve your defense.
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    TBH, now I hope that some teams could destroy Blair so that Pop would start Diaw like he did to Dice last season.

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    TBH, now I hope that some teams could destroy Blair so that Pop would start Diaw like he did to Dice last season.
    I don't know. The team would have to be losing quite a bit because teams are already destroying him. I'm just hoping for a shorter leash in the playoffs tbh.

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    Yeh I dont no why Pop doesnt give patty more minutes.
    Patty has been doing fine. especially considering he played just his first 2 games as a spur and in the NBA this YEAR. He got 7 points in 6 minutes at his 2nd game..
    Give him some more respect to let him be comfortable with the team and he'll prove to you why he can be backup PG...

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    Yeh I dont no why Pop doesnt give patty more minutes.
    Patty has been doing fine. especially considering he played just his first 2 games as a spur and in the NBA this YEAR. He got 7 points in 6 minutes at his 2nd game..
    Give him some more respect to let him be comfortable with the team and he'll prove to you why he can be backup PG...
    Yeah he was pretty solid in Portland if I recall correctly and even the times he's played for the Spurs. I think it's just that the Spurs have a lot of smalls who have shown they can contribute.

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    Mills has looked to be pushing hard on defense maybe to hard leading towards him being out of position against someone like Nash who lets player movements control just how he is going to make the next play.
    Mills just needs to settle in, he's probably just trying to let Pop know he is putting the effort in.
    Mills knows the spurs system Spurs assistant coach Brett Brown runs a similar style for the Australian national Team that Mills runs Starting PG for.
    Whats he has 2-3 games in spot minutes, least now he's had a chance to train with the team lets not judge too soon.

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    Going by the article on the NBA website, it seems Neal shares the sentiment.

    Gary Neal commented, "Patty brings a lot of energy, especially on the defensive end. In the Phoenix game he was able to come in and pick up Steve Nash full court and kind of disrupt their offense. That was huge and a key to us winning that game, and he can also make shots as he did in Sacramento." Against the Kings, Mills hit a corner 3 pointer and scored seven points in his second game in a Spurs uniform.

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    yeh and neal followed patty on twitter i saw. it takes a lot of pressure from patty knowing that there's not much rivalry between the two to get minutes, they are friends.

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    Mills is only a better defender against small and quick PG's, and there aren't many of them... against everyone else he gets killed... so no, I'd rather have Neal at this point.

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    Overall, I agree with Bruno.

    If you look at some of the more successful 5 man units, Neal is slotted as a shooting guard. No surprises there because his skill set is most effective when hes playing the role of a shooting guard.

    But the situation is a lot more complicated than replacing Neal with Mills.

    I didn't like what I saw out of Neal when he was forced to be our secondary play handler (although he did improve each week.) But with the return of Manu, the addition of Stephen and Boris, Neal should be more effective/efficient on offense. Hopefully that translates to his defense as well.

    I think with the right combination, Neal's poor defense at the PG position can be masked. For example, a Neal, Manu, Leonard/Jack, Bonner and Splitter 5 would be deadly. You have a balance of offensive potency and you're able to have a few above average defenders at there at the same time.

    However, anything resembling a Neal + Green + Leonard backcourt would spell trouble.

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    1. Mills isn't a good defender. He's probably as bad of a defender as Neal.
    I don't hope Mills to be a good defender. I just hope he won't be the worst defensive NBA PG like Neal.

    2. As bad as Neal is at individual defense, the team defense isn't totally destroyed. Per 100 possessions, the Spurs allow 106.80 points per 100 possessions that Neal is on the court.
    It's Neal as a PG the problem, not Neal.
    Spurs allowed 95.7 points per 48min.
    When Neal plays SG, it's 95.6 points per 48 min.
    When Neal plays PG, it's 104.1 points per 48 min.

    With Neal as PG, Spurs team defense is totally destroyed.

    3. The Spurs have been ridiculously good on offense with Neal at point guard, averaging 114.3 points per 100 possessions.
    True and I gave him credit for.

    4. Neal and Ginobili already have good chemistry. Neal knows how to help Ginobili (mostly by handling the ball) but also realizes that Ginobili is the main playmaker in the halfcourt setting. There's no guarantee that Mills will understand that unique dynamic.
    Well, it's worth a try. If Mills doesn't fit well alongside Ginobili after a handfull of game, it will be time to go back at Neal.

    5. If you take away Neal's minutes at backup point guard, you are basically removing him from the playoff rotation. The shooting guard spot is just too deep now to expect Neal to crack the rotation via the 2.
    Well, one of Neal or Green would be out of the rotation if Mills is the backup PG. If you want to keep Neal in the rotation,j just put Green out of it. Personally, I'm not sure Neal should be given minutes over Green.

    6. The teams as I view as the three biggest obstacles in the playoffs -- the Heat, Thunder and Lakers -- all have horrible backup point guard. As poorly as Neal defense, even he should be able to guard Norris Cole, Derek Fisher and Steve Blake.
    After what happened against Memphis last year, Spurs can't take a single playoff opponent lightly. Neal will be destroyed by players like Mo Williams, Beaubois or Dragic.

    And if the matchup is right and Mills isn't that good as backup PG, going back to Neal as backup PG for a series would be fine. Saying that, Mills should be the primary backup PG because Neal total inability to defend quick PGs is just a too big drawback.

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    After Lester freakin' Hudson scored six straight points with Gary Neal defending him, Pop pulled Neal and put in Patty Mills.

    Bruno with the goods, timing-wise at least.

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    Patty making Bruno look like a prophet.

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    Mills looked impressive tonight but no way I leave Neal out of the playoffs rotation. I would rather leave Green out.

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    First Bruno prophecies Diaw coming.
    Now this?

    No worries

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    First Bruno prophecies Diaw coming.
    Now this?

    No worries

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    Yeah I trust Neal, patty looked good but cavs are horrible.

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    If anything.Parker should rest a couple of games down the stretch.Start Mills and have Neal as backup.

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