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You can't use cap space and the MLE in the same season (and the Spurs wouldn't even have cap space in your scenario due to Duncan's cap hold). Your scenario to get Diaw and Lorbek isn't possible.
The guy you quoted was talking about Asik, not Green.
Can't have both Diaw and Lorbek, unless you believe that one of them would sign for the LLE of 2yrs/4M. The Spurs only have one MLE and both of those players will be looking for all or most of the MLE.
It's not just about the aggregate amount between the total currently under contract and the tax level, you have to account for the limits of each exception that you are allowed to use.
You can't use cap space and the MLE in the same season (and the Spurs wouldn't even have cap space in your scenario due to Duncan's cap hold). Your scenario to get Diaw and Lorbek isn't possible.
Yes there is.
I'm not sure how much sense Randolph makes when the Spurs will already have Leonard, Jackson, and possibly Diaw. I don't see where the minutes come from, and I'd really love to keep Boris with how seamless the fit has looked so far.
FYI...... I wouldn't bother arguing the finer points of NBA finance with Bruno or Mel. You're better off debating nuclear physics with me tbh.
Don't teams under the cap still get another exception in place of the MLE? I think I heard it referred to as a "Room Exception". You probably know better than me how teams would qualify for that.
Sorry, but you're wrong.
If you're going to cite wikipedia, you should take the time to read the source article. You'll look a bit smarter that way.
Follow footnote 6.
Ditch Bonner/Blair?
Dunno how you go about that though.
No, you can't.
You're either over the cap or under the cap.
If you're under, you can use your available cap space. If you use available cap space, you do not get to use the MLE that year.
Black and white.
The MLE is for teams over the cap.
You can't because of Duncan's cap hold. I doubt you'd want to renounce his rights.
http://www.shamsports.com/whatthedeuce.htm
^ Use better sources than wikipedia ( or at least try to understand what is written before arguing ).
This is 100% correct
Tim's rumored number is $12M. Bye bye cap room.
Yes.
New exception for teams under the cap.
2yrs/5M
djd, you need to understand the concept of cap holds. Read up on it. Your FAs count against your cap at a higher figure than their old salary until you renounce or re-sign them.
Keeping Green: do-able.
Stealing Asik: no ing way
No. it didn't.
I'm done with you. Believe what you like. You believe Spanoulis is Manu 2.0 and that the Spurs offered him 3yrs/15M. You believe wiki articles are authoritative sources for information on the NBA CBA.
If you would actually like to become informed on this subject, read Larry Coon.
Here's his authoritative website:
https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm
And here's his summary of changes in the 2011 CBA (which you would have read if you followed the link in the wiki):
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...pares-last-one
Good luck.
Wow, there's so much wrong in that one paragraph that it approaches the absurd.
so the Heat didn't exceed the luxury cap?Wow, there's so much wrong in that one paragraph that it approaches the absurd.
Talking out of his ass : check
Citing sources without reading what is written : check
Thinking he knows it all and everyone else doesn't : check
djd, you'll find a lot of friends in the forum, man
Don't you need 3 years to get Bird rights? DG has only been here 2 years.
donjuan - You've gotten some stuff twisted. Relax - it happens. Just slow down, and I'm sure you can clear it up.
I clipped this from Larry Coon, for a start. In my opinion, he explains the CBA better than anyone. This is his explanation of the new Mid-Level Exception rules out of the new CBA. You might check out his explanation of what is included in total team salary, for cap purposes.
Midlevel exception
• 2005 CBA: Five years starting at the average salary ($5.765 million in 2010-11), with 8 percent raises.
• 2011 CBA: For non-taxpaying teams, four years starting at $5 million (base salary grows by 3 percent annually beginning in 2013-14), with 4.5 percent raises. Taxpaying teams are limited to three years, a $3 million base salary (which grows by 3 percent annually beginning in 2013-14) and 4.5 percent raises. Teams with cap room (therefore losing their midlevel exception) get a new midlevel that is for two years and starts at $2.5 million (growing 3 percent annually).
• Who benefits? Very few full midlevel contracts handed out under the 2005 CBA turned out to be good bargains in their later years. Reducing the size and length of the midlevel exception will help teams rid themselves of bad contracts.
The new exception for teams with cap room will benefit teams that clear cap room to sign free agents. For example, in the summer of 2010 Miami gutted its roster in order to obtain James and Bosh. This left the Heat with a small amount of cap room to sign players like Mike Miller. But once they reached the salary cap, they could offer only minimum-salary contracts. Under the new CBA, once they reach the cap, they could still offer one or more players a total of $2.5 million.
EARLY BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is a weaker form of the Larry Bird exception, and is also a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA. A player qualifies for this exception essentially by playing two seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent (see question number 26 for details). A team may use this exception to re-sign its own free agent for up to 175% of his salary the previous season or the average player salary, whichever is greater.
https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm
If you renounce your players, you can no longer use cap room or Bird rights to re-sign them. They can be signed to nothing more than a minimum contract. IN addition, by renouncing them, you go below the cap and lose the MLE.
People here have been talking cap and tax for close to a decade. It's OK if you don't know everything. It's not OK to scoff them and act like you do. Type less. Read more. Don't pick fights. I guarantee that if there's a loop hole you think you see, the NBA saw it at least 5 years ago, probably more, and they closed it.
wow. congratulations. 20 posts and your credibility level is already that low, that it would take at least 10000 perfectly reasonable posts to get back to the start. well, this forum knows only one person with such superpowers. KBP.
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