Amazes me how people mess around with stats to make people look good. Heads up, if Splitter played as as many minutes as Gasol, he wouldnt have nearly as good starts.
TD's points per minutes are as good as he was 10 years ago, but noone will say he is anyhwhere near as good as he was then.
Fine post by the OP.
And yes local SA media cowers at the thought of crossing Popped. Sent most all of them emails last year. Of the responses i got, the only one addressing the Bonbon issue said....i kid you not....."the coaches tell us he plays in the playoffs because he spreads the floor".
Wouldn't touch the Splitter question other then the one ' who thinks Splitter sucks. (Don Harris i think).
That's because points per minute is merely one stat.
Defense etc.
Timmy Dunks is no where near his 2001-2007 MVP run.
Did you go to the "people who don't support millionaires but think they have influence over local sports teams anyway" meeting?
I'd like to add to the conspiracy theory. Splitter recently comparing Euro game vs. NBA game said in Europe it's all about the game, in America you have a lot of bull going on during timeouts/halftimes. It's more like a 3 ring circus.
I think he is being punished by the Spurs and league for his comments.
IIRC, Splitter/Duncan doesn't space the floor enough or some .
But neither does Blair/Duncan. Splitter can do everything Blair can do and a whole lot more, he's smarter, and he's the size of a legit center. I just don't ing get it, Pop.
I would be interested in seeing that quote or interview (link). I saw the brief Q&A Fastbreak with Tiago on Spurs.com. He said there was so much entertainment and so much going on that sometimes people forget to cheer but not here in San Antonio.I'd like to add to the conspiracy theory. Splitter recently comparing Euro game vs. NBA game said in Europe it's all about the game, in America you have a lot of bull**** going on during timeouts/halftimes. It's more like a 3 ring circus.
I think he is being punished by the Spurs and league for his comments.
splitter aint no secret weapon for pops....his secret weapon is clearing the bench with the white flag i surrender come into my ass
You'll never get one from che.
I think we will know something in tomorrow's game against L.A.
If Pop doesn't play Splitter big minutes so he can learn to guard Bynum without fouling out, I don't think we stand a chance against L.A. in the playoffs.
Bynum is playing at such a high level right now that no team has an answer for him, imo, unless they have two bigs at the same time. Tim is not strong enough to stop Bynum, but he is effective against Gasol and they can both (Tim and Gasol) spend more time away from the basket guarding each other and shooting from there.
But if Tim is away from the basket, the Lakers will (and should) just dump it in to Bynum and he can score and rebound at will against us (as he did the last game). Yesterday's game against Dallas showed Hayward doing a decent job against him (Bynum still dominated but not as much as against us) and if we don't have something like that we will lose every game against them.
Well, I think he is right about the game vs. the distractions during times-out and between quarters. When I used to go to games it used to make me irritable because it is so clearly geared to a stereotype of the ADD American sports fan who cannot tolerate being left to their own imaginations for two whole minutes...so they come out with idiotic contests sponsored by Spurs' sponsors or part-owners who get their name in front of the fans in return for some classless 'entertainment'.
My favorite was always the Whatabuger contests where the winner would get a year's worth of free Whataburger, and the runner -up would, I always imagined, get 2 years of free Whataburger.
To add insult to injury, Tiagos minutes in the month of April (excluding the game at Salt Lake City):
17
14
11
17
15
13
He averages 19 mpg for the season, yet hasnt hit that mark once this month. His minutes are decreasing instead of increasing going into the postseason. Diaw for instance has played 20+ minutes four times this month and less than 17 minutes only once. Given his ridiculously efficient production when hes out there and the fact that hes been in the system longer than Diaw, it just makes no sense.
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Also I wouldnt claim that theres a media conspiracy against him. But its obvious that the local media fears Pop, theyre scared to question his decisions.
Splitter is good?? OMG is that really a ing surprise... Pop is just an idiot.
They are in fact afraid of him with good reason. The last reporter who 'took on' the Spurs management and coaching got fired.
Even the national media is afraid of getting insulted by him....because he never misses a chance to insult them if at all possible.
"These are, by far, the funniest posters..guys who somehow think that if I haven't done this for two years, that I will magically change course and suddenly do it in the playoffs....
...oh yeah...and those CIA Pop guys....
get off his nuts and form your own opinion
I've been on the Splitter bandwagon for a while now so I agree with most of the OP. I'm surprised Splitter hasn't gotten more pub due to his impressive stats. Even Hollinger, the ultimate PER lover, hasn't been very vocal about what Splitter is doing. BTW, since Splitter's return from the back spams, his PER is ~27
For the record, I do think both Gasols are another level above Splitter. He could probably get there eventually but right now he's not there yet. He doesn't yet have the all-around feel for the game and is more of a niche player. But that said, as long as he eventually gets minutes and can avoid injuries, Splitter has a decent chance of being an All-Star before all is said and done.
As for the media, it's a combination of things. The E-N gets to be close to the team as long as they don't rock the boat very much, so they wouldn't dare to go out of their way to critique a coaching decision. As far as the local news guys, they don't care enough (or know enough) to do anything other than fluff ... especially since the average Spurs fan probably doesn't even know who Splitter is. The smaller media outlets have a difficult enough time getting press credentials as it is so they aren't going to go out of their way to cause any commotion.
Regarding 48MoH, they get their credentials through ESPN so they're pretty safe. And as far as I know, they're free to have any opinion they want. With them, I think it's just their opinion that Pop is playing his cards right with regards to Splitter. Can't really fault them for having an opinion, tbh.
Yep. The person to bring up "conspiracy" was uber Pop nuttrider T-Park.
Not the OP.
I have a little feeling that if Tiago got more minutes to play, for example if someone of our bigs got injured (I hope not, of course, but...), he could've exploded the way Goran Dragic did after Lowry was out. He's good baller, just needs to get more opportunity, but yeah, tell Pop that.
Next thing you know, they'll force Splitter to play baseball.
Solid point, tbh.
Splitter needs an elbow jumper. If not, players like Bynum, the Gasols, Ibaka will continue to hang back 2-3 ft inside the FT line on screen/rolls.
Ha. I don't care to create a pe ion or start a "Play Tiago more" movement because:I'll sign a pe ion or whatever if some one creates it (I'm too old and technology-challenged).
- I don't think it's a critical issue. (Bonner's playing time is THE critical issue and is what will kill this team, not Tiago's lack of playing time. Any combo of Blair/Diaw/Jackson/Splitter would be superior to Bonner.)
- It would be pointless because it won't lead to any changes. Here's why.
As much as I love Tim, I'm afraid he's the primary reason for Tiago's lack of playing time. I believe Tim (prideful, prima donna, whatever you want to call it) still wants to be THE GUY in the middle and doesn't want to share the stage with Tiago. That's the best explanation I can think of as to why they never play at the same time. I don't buy the "Pop's a moron" argument or "he doesn't spread the floor" BS.
Although Tim's no longer MVP or all-star level, he's still good enough that Pop can allow Tim to continue to be the guy, at the expense of playing time for Tiago. And because of their loyalty to one another, this will continue to be the case as long as Tim can put up acceptable numbers.
Yes, Tim is known around the league for his greedy, prima donna ways.
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