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BTW, I also don't see anything wrong with the comment.
I don't see anything wrong with the quote, either. But I also enjoyed it when LeBron promised that the Heat were going to win 7+ championships. I liked it when Rudy Gay said that he hoped the Griz draw the Spurs in the playoffs, too.
The ones I worry about do their talking on the court.
BTW, I also don't see anything wrong with the comment.
There's a nice little ****storm (just ctrl+f: "Ginobili") about this comment over on warriorsworld forums.
By the way, just for quick reference, Manu's career PER by season -
02-03 (rookie): 14.7
03-04: 18.5
04-05: 22.3
05-06: 22.4
06-07: 24.1
07-08: 24.3
08-09: 22.9
09-10: 22.5
10-11: 21.7
11-12: 22.9
It took Manu 3 seasons to get into elite "top 20 NBA players" PER territory.
Klay Thompson PER in his rookie season thus far:
11-12 (rookie): 15.2
Who the is Klay Thompson?
The main reason why Manu will easily go in the HOF is because of what he has done outside of the NBA and I'm sure that a vast majority of NBA players, including Klay Thompson, doesn't at all about that.Bruno with the not so subtle troll job on the CoM.
Kid could only hope to be a first ballot hall of famer, imho.
When it comes to NBA personal distinction, Ginobili hasn't a great track record. Being an all star is maybe the most important NBA award aside of a MVP le and Manu has only been all star 2 times. If Klay Thompson thinks he can be close to Ray Allen's level, a 10 times NBA all star, then he thinks too he can be way better than Ginobili.
If he doesn't know he should learn, tbh. Dude would be lucky to have half the success Manu had in his basketball career.
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I've always thought All NBA>All Star since being an All Star is more of a popularity contest more than anything else. Maybe it's just me.
I don't think anybody is mad here. Just that a guy saying he can be better than Allen or Manu after a mediocre rookie season is pretty silly.
Looks like a pretty decent player. Setting your sights high is how a lot of these guys get to the NBA.
I have to agree. Manu's overall NBA career hasn't been that spectacular when it comes down to awards and recognitions. The only way Manu makes into the HOF is based on his international career alone. I love Manu but there's a lot of players in this league that have more talent or athletic ability than him. He's just a great team player that seems to find a way to win though along with him being a pretty clutch one.The main reason why Manu will easily go in the HOF is because of what he has done outside of the NBA and I'm sure that a vast majority of NBA players, including Klay Thompson, doesn't at all about that.
When it comes to NBA personal distinction, Ginobili hasn't a great track record. Being an all star is maybe the most important NBA award aside of a MVP le and Manu has only been all star 2 times. If Klay Thompson thinks he can be close to Ray Allen's level, a 10 times NBA all star, then he thinks too he can be way better than Ginobili.
All star reserves are designed by coaches. Starters are the result of a popularity contest but most of the time they deserve to be all star.
Being an all star has way more impact than being in a 2nd or 3rd All NBA team even if it's easier to do. When you're an all star, you are part of a huge event that show it. When you are a 3rd NBA team, there is a nothing to show it. Medias put too more emphasis on the all star item. While you can often read/heard "he is playing like an all star", you almost never read/heard "he is playing like a 3rd all NBA player".
He IS a good player. And he's having a pretty damned good season for a rookie. I don't care how good he is, the comment was stupid.
LeBron is a pretty good player, too. Standing up and saying that he is going to win 7 or more championships in Miami was stupid. You can only fail with a comment like that. If he really does win 7+ rings, then it was obvious that he could. If he doesn't, he just looks like a tool. Same goes for Klay Thompson's comment. It's a free country, and he can make whatever comment he wants. Just like all the people who think it makes him a bag have a right to their opinion.
This much is true, though. Even if he matches Manu's numbers in the NBA, it won't mean that he would automatically be Manu's equal. Manu's value to his team, whether it's the Spurs or his NT goes well beyond the box score. Throw in the fact that he stayed here and came off the bench, rather than going to a team where he would start, and he's set the bar pretty high.
If KT came to the Spurs he would have a parade of homers and a parade of bashers following him around, both sides sucking his .
He probably has the talent - but that's barely half the battle in this league.
In general, I like iness over shyness and modesty but that comment was just stupid.
I couldn't name a lot of SG better than Manu in the last 10 years. Kobe and maybe Wade could be the only ones and Manu isn't far from Wade in the playoffs
So if he's gonna be better than Manu he will be the better SG of the league in the next 10 years. Good luck.
Talent? Pure talent? I can't name a lot...I couldn't name 5 .
If you count athletic ability like talent then it's ok
Clearly it matters how good he is, because people seem to believe that his answer is an insult to Manu's greatness.
First of all, he has no reason to love Manu the way you (and I) do, and it's not like he volunteered the comparison; unlike Lebron's 7 les comment, Thompson was just answering a question. In addition, it's entirely possible that he took being compared to Manu as a shot at his athletecism.
If he'd said "I'm way better than Manu Ginobili," I'd be in agreement with you, because it's ludicrous, or if he'd been a in any way about it. But he just said that he thinks he can be just as good, if not better. Lofty? Yep. Impossible? Nope.
It seems weird to think that mere "possibility" is enough to make a comment fine. When I was new to my profession I wouldn't have dreamed of publicly announcing that I could be "as good or better" than a successful well-respected better in my field before having achieved anything. And if I did people would have described me in unflattering terms.
Not necessarily "impossible" but I'd definitely throw the words "highly implausible" into the mix. I'm sorry but Manu has won at every level from the NBA to the Olympics. Klay Thompson will be lucky if he goes decently far in the NBA playoffs. And even if he did play an important part in getting a ring he still wouldn't have Manu's resume.
The only way that the "even better" element of his quote becomes remotely realistic is if he's counting accomplishments and skills by all-star games. Gino has played himself into the Hall of Fame. Does anyone really think Klay Thompson is going there?
Some of that has been cause of Pop not starting him.
And Lola.
And I agree, kid probably doesn't know much about Manu and may gotten a little offended that a journalist compared him to a bench player.
It's pretty doubtful that going beyond that stat sheet he'll ever have as much as an impact on his team that Manu has had...
The problem is not his confidence, the problem is that he clearly doesn't recognize just how great a player Ginobili is. He probably thinks he's just another All-Star caliber player, like a Johnson, Ellis, etc.
And he's definitely delusional. He's got zero chance of ever being as good as Ginobili. The best that can be hoped for is that he becomes a more durable, maybe slightly more well rounded version of Martin.
He needs to hire you to do PR for him. That's pretty good.
Look at it this way: how about if Kawhi had come here and said in an interview that he knew he could be just as good, or better than, say, Grant Hill? Or how about Sean Elliott? Would you be applauding him for it, or thinking that the rookie should tone it down? I'd be doing the second. Maybe we're just that different, but I just think it's a bit much to single out another player like that. It would be bad enough for a #1 pick who really set the league on fire - but for anyone else, it's just not smart.
For me, at least, it has nothing to do with it being Manu. That's the one part that's the interviewer's fault. He could have just said that he doesn't pattern his game after anyone, and that he just does his own thing.
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