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    Give his minutes to Horry. Let Horry get hot in the 1st quarter so he can pose a threat during the whole game, and not just hte last 2 minutes of the 4th.

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    duncan has played his worse in any series
    I think detroits d should get credit some here

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    You can play Horry more but you don't want to waste his legs towards the end of the game. I can't believe that Nazr can't even catch the damn ball. And honestly I would play Massenburg so he can roughen up the Pistons big guys. Even if it's just to send a couple of hard fouls.

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    You can play Horry more but you don't want to waste his legs towards the end of the game. I can't believe that Nazr can't even catch the damn ball. And honestly I would play Massenburg so he can roughen up the Pistons big guys. Even if it's just to send a couple of hard fouls.
    True. Save Horry for 4th quarter. Use Rasho/Massenburg combo in first 3Q.

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    The time has come to use Rasho. Start Nazr because he might win the tip. Then insert Rasho after a couple of minutes. Tim needs help. Let rasho play like a weaker version of DRob. It can't hurt. Mohammed just is not ready for the Finals.

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    Nazr's strengths are surpassed by the Wallaces, and his weaknesses are what they are best at exploiting. His strength is offensive rebounding ... which is hard to do either when you're up against arguably the best rebounder in the NBA. Ben Wallace is also the league's best shot blocker, which exploits Nazr's average-at-best finishing abilities.

    It's not a matter of Nazr sucking... it's just a bad matchup for him. Same as Tony Parker. I'm not sure how much more you could reasonably expect from him.

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    Nazr's strengths are surpassed by the Wallaces, and his weaknesses are what they are best at exploiting. His strength is offensive rebounding ... which is hard to do either when you're up against arguably the best rebounder in the NBA. Ben Wallace is also the league's best shot blocker, which exploits Nazr's average-at-best finishing abilities.

    It's not a matter of Nazr sucking... it's just a bad matchup for him. Same as Tony Parker. I'm not sure how much more you could reasonably expect from him.

    Agreed.

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    I could reasonably expect Nazr not to fumble every pass that comes his way, right? Seriously, thats one thing thats bogging down the Spurs O. When he's in there they helpside D can come early and not worry too much because he never catches it. By the time he has a handle on the ball - if it's not already a turnover - the defense has established itself and the opening is gone.

    I like Nazr, and still think the best of him is yet to come, but he's killing me at times on that court.

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    Yeah, he does have butter fingers occasionally... Still, something tells me those shots would've been blocked anyway.

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    "Nazr, and still think the best of him is yet to come"

    nope, after 7 years in the NBA and in his prime, with Nazr, what you see is what you will always see: weak fundamentals, hands of stone, no feel for the low-block game.

    Like so many other teams, Spurs have a huge hole at the 5.

    Too bad we can't graft Nazr's rebounding onto Rasho and go with Rasho.

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    Absolutely amazing how the playoffs can make or ruin men. After hating on Spurs mgt. initially, once Nazr Mohammed started playing "well", the Knicks were laughed at by Spurs fans for assuming Malik's long term contract. Another genius move by Buford etc., right? Well, from a business standpoint, no doubt whatsoever. I still applaud this trade.

    BUT, its time to realize that Nazr is not the guy that occasionally showed up during the earlier playoff series. Even when he played "well" (sorry, but 8 points and 9 boards is very average to me), he always made me nervous with his ugly shot and nervous footwork. His free throw shooting is Rasho-like and he should be blocking more shots.

    Suddenly in this Detroit series he has become a liability. Not merely a non-factor, but a liability. He's turnover prone, foul prone (and doesn't even foul hard), and in burying Rasho so deep on the bench in this guy's favor, now what little confidence Rasho had before the playoffs has completely evaporated.

    Hate on Tim all you want, but the fact is that he has absolutely NO HELP underneath, where big men bang and defend. Horry can come in a hit some killer perimeter shots and throw down a flukish crowd silencing dunk, but on the defensive end? And how about when we need some paint production? Just put Sheed on Tim and occasionally let Ben slide over to slap the ball out of Tim's hands. After all, you know that Tim has not help underneath. As an added bonus, you get in Tim's head.

    So, in conclusion, Nazr Mohammed is not very good. I think Isaiah Thomas and Malik Rose are having a laugh somewhere. We could especially use Malik's heart and balls right now.

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    What have he done since in this series? He is owned by Pistons. He putted some good stat in Game 1 and 2, but as we have seen, Pistons weren't really playing in first two games.
    I don't give a for his rebound, that is all what he has to show. He camps under the basket and wait for balls, big deal.
    Rasho is way way better defensevely against the Pistons and his rule in offense is significant as he box-out Ben and make place for driving layups. Put Rasho in, and suddenly we won't have to shot so many threes and also FG% from TP and Manu will be higher.

    I appreciate what Nazr did in PO, but in the finals, he is our weakest starer. I don't care how big he will be next year! For me, he can became Wilt-Russel-Robinson combo if he wants. I want le this year! This is no time to teach Nazr how to play. If Beno is benched (he could still contribute something in first half), why the is Nazr still playing?

    PS: I will not watch Game 7 live! No way. I watched G3 (-17), been on Slovenian GTG for G4 (-31) and watched G6 (-9). If this helps, I am ready to contribute (and get some sleep).
    I totally agree. I like Nazr, and he does have his good games, but he has not brought it these past few games. I would love to see Rasho get the chance to start or at least play some significant minutes.

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    Pinche NAZR MOHAMMED....dammit dude...stop being such a little b!tch...f*ck...you worthless waste of space......keep your eyes on the damn ball....grab the f*cking ball...then slam the sh!t outa that b!tch...who cares if you get blocked....pick it up again...then try again....
    Hilarious...and good stuff...that expresses exactly how I feel when I pound my fist on the coffee table after watching him, a professional athlete, not be able to catch a damn ball!!! (my pet peeve)

    ...and Parker and Duncan need to finish with authority more.

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    POP, hear our prayer!

    My pop, accept our wishes and make us better!

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    Yeah, he does have butter fingers occasionally... Still, something tells me those shots would've been blocked anyway.
    Yeah in Game 6, I was hoping he wouldn't catch the ball. When he does catch the ball it's always two pumpfakes, a travel and then gets blocked. I'd rather him just turn it over than to get Ben Wallace even more energized.

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    You all know the starter of this thread is Slovenian and obviously is carrying something against Nazr because of Rasho.

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    Dre 7, no, you are not alone. A lot of us still believe but know it won't be easy. The Spurs have to come out very aggressive, get a lead and KEEP IT! I'd like to see "Big Ben" knock over Mass like he has Manu. Yeah, right!

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    You all know the starter of this thread is Slovenian and obviously is carrying something against Nazr because of Rasho.

    Wow you noticed that little flag too! How observant!

    Secondly respond to the points he made which most of the other posters agree with - to different levels, but agree never the less. You don't have to be Slovenian to realize that Nazr is not playing that well lately. And maybe Rasho's D would be more productive at this point than Nazr's upfake/traveling.

    Finally please explain which part of his post (or from the others) shows that he is "carrying something against Nazr".

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    What we have to lose?
    Everything is at stake.

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    Hate on Tim all you want, but the fact is that he has absolutely NO HELP underneath, where big men bang and defend. Horry can come in a hit some killer perimeter shots and throw down a flukish crowd silencing dunk, but on the defensive end? And how about when we need some paint production? Just put Sheed on Tim and occasionally let Ben slide over to slap the ball out of Tim's hands. After all, you know that Tim has not help underneath. As an added bonus, you get in Tim's head.

    Exactly, that's what I've been saying. Tim is fighting 3 or more guys on every possesion.

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    Rasho is at the end of the bench and it could be because of Nazr. I'm sure if Beno was playing well and TP got benched because of it a lot of French people would be quick to start Bench Beno threads if he made mistakes that everybody else is making.

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    Rasho is at the end of the bench and it could be because of Nazr. I'm sure if Beno was playing well and TP got benched because of it a lot of French people would be quick to start Bench Beno threads if he made mistakes that everybody else is making.
    Show me the threads that Slovenian posters have started to put down Nazr after he took over from Rasho (as per your example). Nazr has been playing badly for a while now so your point about the quick threads also doesn't hold water. This thread was started by an inteligent post that offered a solution (one you may or may not agree with) to a problem the Spurs have been facing for the past games.

    Instead of discussing that post/solution you pull out the nationalistic card discarding the thread because it was started by a Slovenian.

    weak!

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    You all know the starter of this thread is Slovenian and obviously is carrying something against Nazr because of Rasho.
    Yes, I am Slovenian, big deal. Where did a carry something against Nazr?
    True, I would like to see playing Rasho more, however Nazr has done good job as Rasho was injured.
    Please read this post from Spurminator. It explains the point I am making much better:

    Nazr's strengths are surpassed by the Wallaces, and his weaknesses are what they are best at exploiting. His strength is offensive rebounding ... which is hard to do either when you're up against arguably the best rebounder in the NBA. Ben Wallace is also the league's best shot blocker, which exploits Nazr's average-at-best finishing abilities.

    It's not a matter of Nazr sucking... it's just a bad matchup for him. Same as Tony Parker. I'm not sure how much more you could reasonably expect from him.
    Here is the point: It's not a matter of Nazr sucking... it's just a bad matchup for him.
    We are going down with this lineup, we do not penetrante, we take to many outside shots and Tim is just alone in the paint.
    Please argue with facts not with my country of origin.

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    So who is the next center on our roster that we should replace Nazr with. I say Massenburg.

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    Massenburg would be your best choice to replace Nazr.

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