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    Moss is Da Sauce! mouse's Avatar
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    You claim to have gone to MIT?
    If you doubt my credentials then put 1,000 on my paypal account and I will promptly fax you my do ents.


    If you don't understand what heat does to steel, then I say bull to you being a student there.
    heat does to steal after 4 hours?



    or after 10 hours?


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    I have said what I believe really happened on 9/11 many, many times.
    And yet you question others?

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    And yet you question others?
    The ones who haven't said what they believe really happened on 9/11 -- absolutely.

    What do you think really happened on 9/11, mouse?

    I am questioning you because you have never said what you believe really happened on 9/11.

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    Kobe raPERIOD

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    Please give us links to quotes from the chairpersons of the 9/11 commission proving your contention.

    You have been called out again.
    Committee member Senator Bob Graham

    “I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia,” former Senator Bob Graham, Democrat of Florida, said in an affidavit filed as part of a lawsuit brought against the Saudi government and dozens of ins utions in the country by families of Sept. 11 victims and others. Mr. Graham led a joint 2002 Congressional inquiry into the attacks.
    Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee Senator Bob Kerry....

    ...in a sworn affidavit of his own in the case that “significant questions remain unanswered” about the role of Saudi ins utions. “Evidence relating to the plausible involvement of possible Saudi government agents in the September 11th attacks has never been fully pursued,” Mr. Kerrey said.
    NY Times

    All this information is out there, but Chumpy and RG, whether they have some hidden agenda, or maybe they don't like to look stupid, although every time they act like they knew better than Senators who were privy to evidence which most of us were not, they do.....they want to keep you ignorant because it does not fit into their agenda...

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    Bush lied and people died...so where is the accountability? Are Presidents immune from criminal neligence?

    THE NOBODY TOLD ME SCAM

    The President asserts that no adviser told him about a cell and, further, that on several occasions in spring and summer 2001 he “asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States.” The August 6 briefing paper states without ambiguity that a cell—people behaving as members of a cell—existed at that time. The record clearly establishes that George W. Bush was told repeatedly, from September 2000 onward, of precisely such threats. The Commission knew that experts—terrorism specialists who worked around the clock (often taking three meals a day at their desks)—had composed hair-burning tirades, had dared at length to “scream” unavailingly for attention, and had finally begged in despair to be relieved of posts rendered utterly meaningless by their superiors' unresponsiveness.

    In September 2000, before the election, John McLaughlin, then acting deputy director of the CIA, camped at Bush's ranch in Texas with a CIA team bringing the harrowing message. Ben Bonk, deputy chief of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center, was among the experts who told Bush that Americans would die in terrorist acts led or inspired by Bin Laden during the next four years. Authoritatively assembled material was submitted to the Bush/Cheney transition team spelling out the fact that “al Qaeda had ‘sleeper cells’ in more than 40 countries, including the United States.” An attachment to this paper, submitted in January 2001, focused on “al Qaeda's presence in the United States.” When James Pavitt, CIA deputy director for operations, briefed the president-elect at Blair House, he described Bin Laden as “one of the gravest threats to the country.” Bill Clinton told Bush in a two-hour session on national security: “‘I think you will find that by far your biggest threat is Bin Ladin and the al Qaeda.’” Clinton spoke as one who had lived through a rain of jihadist bombs—the Black Hawk Down incident, the African embassies, the Cole, the Millennium Threat, among them. Bush later said that he “felt sure President Clinton had mentioned terrorism, but did not remember much being said about al Qaeda.” All this is in the Report for anyone to see.

    Given the evidence, the Commissioners who meant to serve fact—meant truly to foster the future security of this country—would have had to confront, through words and acts, the gap between the President's absurd, nobody-told-me assertions and the plain record before them of repeated attempts to draw his attention away from Iraq to the threat that closed the very street on which he and his family lived. They would have been forced to raise the question, to themselves and to their audience, of whether this level of ignorance and obliviousness, this much incontrovertible proof of neglect and indifference, could be passed over in silence by men and women of patriotic good conscience. They would have been forced to admit to themselves that they knew what they knew.
    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/10/0080234

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    From the September 11 Commission co-chairs

    The panel [i.e. the 9/11 Commission] also said the failure of the Bush administration to allow officials to be interviewed without the presence of government colleagues could impede its investigation, with the commission's chairman suggesting today that the situation amounted to "intimidation" of the witnesses.
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    [9/11 Commission co-chairs] Mr. Kean and Mr. Hamilton suggested that the Justice Department was behind a directive barring intelligence officials from being interviewed by the panel without the presence of agency colleagues.

    At a news conference, Mr. Kean described the presence of "minders" at the interviews as a form of intimidation. "I think the commission feels unanimously that it's some intimidation to have somebody sitting behind you all the time who you either work for or works for your agency," he said. "You might get less testimony than you would."

    "We would rather interview these people without minders or without agency people there," he said.

    And as I previously noted, a recently released 9/11 Commission memo complains that:

    Minders “answer[ed] questions directed at witnesses;”


    Minders acted as “monitors, reporting to their respective agencies on Commission staffs lines of inquiry and witnesses’ verbatim responses.” The staff thought this “conveys to witnesses that their superiors will review their statements and may engage in retribution;” and

    Minders “positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves in a manner that we believe intimidates witnesses from giving full and candid responses to our questions.”

    Still think this isn't an important issue?
    Link

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    Committee member Senator Bob Graham



    Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee Senator Bob Kerry....



    NY Times

    All this information is out there, but Chumpy and RG, whether they have some hidden agenda, or maybe they don't like to look stupid, although every time they act like they knew better than Senators who were privy to evidence which most of us were not, they do.....they want to keep you ignorant because it does not fit into their agenda...
    Ok, so you said earlier that you think the US government is behind the 9/11 attacks.

    Now you are pimping the idea that the Saudi government was behind the 9/11 attacks.

    Which is it, dan?

    Pick one.

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    Bush lied and people died...so where is the accountability? Are Presidents immune from criminal neligence?

    THE NOBODY TOLD ME SCAM



    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/10/0080234
    So you don't think Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.

    You really need to narrow things down, dan. You're all over the place.

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    Cosmored came back. Let's see if he can state his theory in his own words without links yet.

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    Since he is going off in another thread, I'm bumping this to give him yet another opportunity to tell everyone what he thinks really happened on 9/11.

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