Proxy has a point, supossedly Bowen was a great FT shooter on practice and then in the games he would up, no matter if it was in the first game of the regular season or in game 7 of the finals.
Probably because you feel all energized/pumped up in a game so it takes a lot less power to shoot then when you just go to the gym and take them by yourself. I always had that problem when I played.
tbh I would be money in practice and sometimes bank them in the game because I was so pumped up
This was your post...
Let me repeat it one more time...
What you're basically saying is that Reggie Evans would "magically" become a great FT shooter on a rec league... despite no evidence whatsoever that's true at all.
5th worst free throw percentage in the history of the entire NBA
Nono, sending Proxy to the free-woe line.
"Lazy Blacks" (pre- le change).... sounds like a generalization to me. I'm making an argument for FT shooting in the NBA being more difficult than practice in general; not an argument for any specific case or individual player. There are always exceptions to every generalization, and you would have me asking for forgiveness if saying Evans turning into Barry after subtracting the environment had been my intent.
Rather, my intent was to put down the humorous notion that normal forum-posting people feel that they could walk out to the line with said notes partnered with the professional environment and situation with make the points with ease.
Fair enough
Fair enough
I know we hear stories all the time about Shaq and Ben Wallace being able to sink 50 free throws in a row during practice but I have my doubts. If free throws were THAT easy for them during practice they wouldn't look so uncomfortable and clueless during a game.
The "I'm really good in practice, but not in games!" thing is bull . It's like people who say "I'm really good on the driving range, but I never play well on the course!" Yeah, no , you're swinging well on the driving range when you have 100 balls to hit one after another so you can identify flaws and focus on correcting them because it's just practice. Same thing with basketball. When you're shooting hundreds of free throws in a row and can get in a rhythm and think about form/motion. The whole point is to practice them to the point where they're 2nd nature and you have the right form/motion without thinking about it.
Tyson already basically said all of this^
There was a tale that Shaq was offered training by a great freethrow coach (can't remember who it is) but refused. I hope he took that training so the Lakers wouldn't have had to pull him out in the dying minutes of close games.
NBA teams could walk into pretty much any gym and find guys who shoot free throws better than Reggie Evans... and pretty much none of them could rebound the way Evans does playing against NBA-caliber players. Nobody gave the guy an NBA contract for hitting his FTs, he got it because he's a badass on the boards.
Yeah, the dude really ought to spend some time working on his ty shooting form. It's embarrassing. But as long as he delivers cleaning the glass, he's still doing what he's paid to do.
There's two sides to the game. You can can max out the mechanical side with practice, but the mental side of the game is dependent on the individual.
Let us hypothetically disregard the mental part of the game and imagine every player functioning on basic mechanics that have been perfected by practice. In this world, there wouldn't even be a need for free throws because every unaltered shot would go in and free throws would be assumed to be made. Pressure and fatigue wouldn't work against a player's mental state... but in reality that isn't the case. This is the reason the game is played and free throws are given opportunities instead of given points.
That being said, Shaq, Evans, Wallace... have HUGE shortcoming on both sides. It isn't a coincidence that their games didn't/don't depended on fundamentals.
oh give me a break don't even talk about fatigue. if a high school team is expected to shoot 70% in games, and of course we were tired, then an nba team should be expected to shoot through the "fatigue" as well. they are professional athletes and should be proportionately more conditioned than high school kids to offset the differences in game length. the hoops you are jumping through to make excuses for overpaid grown men makes you look like a sycophant.
also, the mental aspect should be minimized because as stated, it should be done on a subconscious level. that's what the good free throw shooters have learned to tap into.
I don't have a good answer for that. If the Spurs signed somebody like Evans, I'd expect him to work with Chip Engelland until he saw free throws in his sleep.
But I do know that anyone who consistently excels at rebounding in the NBA isn't a slacker, because grabbing boards day in and day out is hard work.
it's easy to go out and work hard in games, which is 2 or 3 times a week, as opposed to working hard 7 days a week and in the summer when everyone else is vacationing.
The mental side and mechanical side aren't unrelated. The more you practice something and make it 2nd nature, it's not as taxing mentally to do it.
Well fatigue was part of what I said... and so was pressure. I could add playable degrees of injury too. If you want to nitpick and choose parts to argue while leaving the other portion of points out in a display of pettiness, then the discussion becomes aimless. Sycophant... maybe I am if Shaq or Evans is reading this.
That being said, fatigue can alter mechanics at a subconscious level. If you're gasping for breath after an intense series, your focus may not be at the necessary level... or if you're Reggie Evans, your mechanics are so poor, that anything working against you is a recipe for disaster. This is basic right here... no matter how in shape you are, your body can be pushed to it's limit. I'm not imagining this. It is what it is, regardless of how much these guys get paid. There's a reason why Nash and Kobe don't hit FTs at 100% even with solid mechanics.
I'm just telling it like it is. Give me the reasons why there hasn't been a player to hit FTs at 100%, going by your logic that fatigue doesn't matter. And let's leave out the notion that their salary or age means anything, because it doesn't in the sense of this discussion.
For sure. Practice breeds muscle memory and confidence.
why hasn't anyone hit 100%? because were humans not robots, but we can still get roughly close. not going to argue the rest because you're just saying the same things over and over.
yips happen when you least expect.
Yeah... I'm being redundant, but it seems like the things I'm repeating aren't being refuted. It's all moot though... and I've lost interest.
Yes.
On the range, I think so much about every single swing and trying to focus on having the right rhythm, keeping my hands close to my body, keeping my head down, all that. It becomes second nature.
On the course, I think about none of that. I just focus on making the swing that I know I can make, and chipping and putting becomes the real challenge, and the difference between a 70 and a 75.
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