I never said Larry wasn't a class act. I just don't think that he handled the Cavs situation very well, particularly the timing. And I'm certaintly not questioning Rasheed's play or his dedication to his team. But I can't consider someone who can't get through a single interview without cussing, who screams obscenities on the court, and who can't control any of his emotions a class act.
That's the most uninformed post ever. Rasheed gave EVERYONE on the team a belt, as a gift.
Plus, if you're talking about techs: Rasheed rarely gets T'd in an important part of the game. I'd say 80% of his Ts are in the first half, and he's never been tossed from a game as the Piston. Rasheed is not selfish, and to say he is proves you know very little about basketball.
CLASS ? please your kidding right
the only class is with the owner , flying timmy home won't soon be forgotten by SPURS fans
tell larry that looking at job offers during the playoffs is CLASSLESS
CLASS you make me laugh
I can buy that. Rasheed certainly isn't PC when it comes to his thoughts and emotions. He's not one to mix words: He was very public about his feelings toward the Bush Administration when the Pistons went to the White House. But he is a prototypical team player. He made mistakes in the past, learned from them, and has been an absolute positive in Detroit.
I can buy that as well.
The brawl shouldn't have reflected badly on the Pistons players or organization. That brawl was because of some fans & Ron Artest.
Say what you want about (some of the) Pistons fans (certainly anybody that was involved in the brawl & throwing stuff at Pacer players), but don't lump in the organization and the players with that lot. The organization and the players are definitely class acts. The "most" is a stupid argument. How can that even be measured against others? It can't. The Spurs and the Pistons are two of the classier organizations in the league, and that's about the most quan ative thing you can reliably say.
The fans of an organization are not part and parcel to the organization and the players. Fans might think they're part of the team, but they're not. They're the audience.
i cant buy what your selling Rasheed still leads the league almost every year with Technical Fouls, how is that classy???? There is only one player that deserve's respect from the Detroit Pistons team and im sorry if i sound bias, but its Chauncey Billups, without Chauncey Detroit Basketball is nothing
Geez, talk about hyperbole. You ever hear of Ben Wallace? He's been the face of the Detroit Pistons since Grant Hill skipped town. Pistons are not at all about one person, anyway. They are the epitome of TEAM. They even won the ESPY for Best Team In Sports last year. That was for ALL sports. CBill is awesome, but he's not the only thing there is to the Pistons.
Last year this is true Detroit played the best team ball around the league, but im sorry you take away Chauncey Billups, and the rest of the team would collapse. Just look at game 6 for a second if Chauncey doesnt got nuts from behind the arc, the Spurs win that game. Lindsay Hunter wouldnt have done that neither would have Prince, Sheed, or Rip.......Last year and this year, are two different stories....i do like the matchup here in the finals though. Its been a great series thus far
So what, you could say "take away Tim Duncan" and the Spurs... does that mean that the Spurs don't have a great team anyway? The Spurs aren't all about Tim, but they are not the same without him. Doesn't mean they aren't still once of the best teams in the NBA. One of the two best to be specific.
To say that the Pistons are "nothing" without Chauncy is just plain wrong. Seven players in double figures in game 4 lest we forget. The team doesn't "collapse" whenever Chauncy is spelled in a game by any means!
that's where you're wrong. Spurs are a mediocre team without Tim Duncan. that's a fact.
you know what i can be man enough to admit that, without tim duncan the spurs are the Pistons without ben wallace....simple as that, we have an all around game....but without tim duncan we dont get as many boards or easy outside shots....but the truth is without Chauncey Billups, the Pistons get swept in the first round
Spurs still won games without Duncan during the regular season, they play the best team ball all year this year. The Pistons only got that many people in double figures because of Chauncey, Chauncey led his team and im sorry but even then Ben Wallace averages what 8 points and 12 boards im sorry but that is not anything special.
we dont have potheads on our team
Is that how we measure a players contributions? If so that is definatly the wrong way to measure Ben's, Batman get the out of here the first round
Very true.The brawl shouldn't have reflected badly on the Pistons players or organization. That brawl was because of some fans & Ron Artest.
Thats not class, they had to do all that, Reggie was retiring. What would you expect?? people not cheering for Reggie? or insulting him? We said Pistons weren't classy, not that they were stupid! You have SOME elements of class but overall you're not classy.
The point wasn't about people cheering or not for Reggie, it was about what the Pistons as a team did to show respect for Reg.
There have been a lot of media people that have said that LB calling that time-out like that was one of the classiest things they'd ever seen in sports. That gesture was defintely a class thing to do. For the visiting team to use one of it's full time outs to allow the home team fans a longer time to cheer one of their hero's is nothing but class. Try to minimize it all you want, but it was clearly a very classy thing to do.
who gives a ?
I only see that brawl starting because Ben Wallace somehow felt it necessary to push another player with forty-five seconds left in a game which the Pistons could not win. Ron Artest is pulled back, and a fan throws a beer at him.
Anyone consider what would have happened if Ben Wallace hadn't pushed that Pacer? He would have finished the game like any civilized player should and the darkest day in NBA history would have never happened.
The Pistons aren't classless, but they most certainly do not define class. The brawl, every game they spend complaining about officiating, whining about respect, it's old. How many Spurs are ever hit with technicals for getting in the ref's face? Pop is, sure - but players? I can't even remember anymore. It's been a while since a T was dished out to a Spur.
As for the timeout that was called for Reggie, yes, that was classy. But it does not automatically make the Pistons a classy organization, especially with how unclean their slate is.
Evidently all the people that have replied to the thread so far, except possibly you... which begs the question, why reply if ye are she who giveth not a ?
if you think constantly whining about the refs is class you need to look in the dictionary once again. Larry is the biggest fraud in the league. He is always talking about the right way. I guess that means pushing defenders into your own players like Rasheed, or constantly whining about the refs in the media and post game interviews. If that is the right way then I'd rather be wrong.
Pistons define childish behavior is more appropriate
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What type of classy individuals carry around Wrestling belts for a championship in a sport that doesn't give out belts?
The Piston players whine on every call that goes against them more than Ray Allen does when somebody touches his delicate body.
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ROCHESTER HILLS, Mich. -- A Pistons fan pleaded guilty to throwing a quarter that hit Allen Iverson during a Detroit-Philadelphia playoff game in April.
Dennis Pauley, 31, of the Detroit suburb of Taylor, faces up to three months in jail and a $500 fine when sentenced Sept. 1 for the city ordinance violation. He pleaded guilty Wednesday to throwing an object onto a playing surface, the court said Thursday.
The judge dismissed a second charge against Pauley -- a city ordinance of occupying an arena seat without permission -- at the request of the prosecutor for the city of Auburn Hills, where The Palace of Auburn Hills is located.
Police said Pauley tossed the quarter late in the fourth quarter after he and a friend moved to better seats.
i dont think we define class but i wouldnt laugh at the pistons being a class team like some of you have. first of all, the brawl had nothing to do with our organization-- look back can u remember any piston fighting when all this was goin on--no. it was just a few drunk ass ed up people who were pissed that we got our ass whoped by indiana. and larry brown is one of the classiest along with pop (member after the brawl, larry said he doesnt know if he wants to coach again). and finally yes, rasheed isnt classy we all know that but he has changed a good bit since his days in portland.
1.) Duncan got t'd up 2 games ago. Plus, if Manu and TP spoke better english they'd probably get t'd up.
2.) You don't know the whole story. Wallace pushed Artest, they were all held back and that seemed to be the end of it. It was more than 2 minutes later when Artest mockingly laid on the scorers table and was doused with beer. You absolutely can't blame that on Ben, although it was a dumb move on his part.
3.) The Pistons haven't complained that much this series. Everyone thinks they have because of how much they did last series. This series they haven't said much, and they certainly haven't said anything in the media.
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