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Pop did the right thing... he gave Matt 10 mins to show if his shot was on... it wasn't... back to the bench... I like "The new Pop"... 10 mins should be enough to see if your "spacer" is on or not...
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Pop did the right thing... he gave Matt 10 mins to show if his shot was on... it wasn't... back to the bench... I like "The new Pop"... 10 mins should be enough to see if your "spacer" is on or not...
Bonner is Michael Jordan with a small sample size. Stop being mean, guys.
allright, I'll stop... basically, I have no complains, tbh... 10 mpg is exactly where Bonner should be at... I'll stop being greedy, tbh
Let's say clutch is a real thing. As I'm sure even the re s know, there's a lot of debate on that topic, but let's pretend it's a sure thing.
Now that we're assuming it is... it's effect is negligible. Immaterial. Almost zero.
So, you're an NBA team and you're game planning against the Spurs. You know Bonner has shot 1,545 3 pointers in his career and made 641 of them, for 41.5%. But you think ("know?") clutch exists. Since you're not braindead, you know the effect is tiny, so you think he'll only make 40% instead of 41.5%.
What do you do? Do you tell your bigs, hey, just leave Bonner open, stay home and defend the paint. We're willing to give up a point expectation of 3 x 0.4 = 1.2, even though that expectation would ****ing KILL us because it's so much higher than the average expectation of approximately 1?
No you don't.
My god, I really don't understand how so many idiots here don't get this. It's so simple. If you read this post and you still don't get it, read it again. And keep rereading until you get it. It's really not that hard.
Can't wait for some Captain of the Idiots to say "But his playoff 3P% is only .348!!"
Yep, if Pop's going to do that, I have absolutely no problem if he's the first big off the bench.
Let's say clutch is a real thing. As I'm sure even the re s know, there's a lot of debate on that topic, but let's pretend it's a sure thing.
Now that we're assuming it is... it's effect is negligible. Immaterial. Almost zero.
So, you're an NBA team and you're game planning against the Spurs. You know Bonner has shot 1,545 3 pointers in his career and made 641 of them, for 41.5%. But you think ("know?") clutch exists. Since you're not braindead, you know the effect is tiny, so you think he'll only make 40% instead of 41.5%.
What do you do? Do you tell your bigs, hey, just leave Bonner open, stay home and defend the paint. We're willing to give up a point expectation of 3 x 0.4 = 1.2, even though that expectation would ****ing KILL us because it's so much higher than the average expectation of approximately 1? Rt
No you don't.
My god, I really don't understand how so many idiots here don't get this. It's so simple. If you read this post and you still don't get it, read it again. And keep rereading until you get it. It's really not that hard.
Can't wait for some Captain of the Idiots to say "But his playoff 3P% is only .348!!"
you obviously haven't watched many playoff games. thankfully, he's not a big part of the rotation this playoffs, but the last two playoffs, teams did exactly what you suggest they wouldn't and they were extremely successful in doing it.
Tbh, you tell them to solve a system of linear equations in their heads to seven decimal places while they're out on the floor reacting to the play, then use the result to determine exactly how far to play off Bonner.
Diaw was such an upgrade... it's just so much more noticeable due to the we had at that position (turd towers)...
I think that and dumping RJ really changed the season for the Spurs...
Has their ever been a more fear-ridden Spur? It's 5 on 4 in the opponent's favor when Bonner's on the court.
Oh well, Spurs win.
All you can do is hope it doesn't catch up with us, and/or Pop figures out another option. Because Bonner's shot is not falling.
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That's a fact.
And hey, we even got Captain Jack out of the deal. Huge win all around.
You're talking to people who once wanted Pop fired because they thought he was killing the spurs championship hopes by not playing Roger Mason Jr. more. Is really hard to understand?
I said it before this game and I will say it again ......We win if Bonner only plays ten minutes a game and Neal does not have to bring the ball up when he is playing PG...
Neal was fine bring the ball up court. They didn't really pressure him.
The Thunder had Westbrook guarding him. Showing just how useless he is. He's got a 7 inch advantage. He should have been posting him up.
and thank you Nono for the sanity - I'm not a Bonner fan (shocking) but I really was hoping that he would be an asset to draw Ibaka out of the paint. I'm still going to hope, but he's been pretty average to below average these playoffs (3.2 and 2?) - if he can't help this series, I really do hope the Spurs amnesty him next year. His worth is only effective when he's making 3pt. baskets and for some reason the playoffs this year (and a few others) aren't his shining moment. If Bonner's cold, give Blair a shot to make something happen - I'm pretty certain it's not going to be much worse than Bonner's defensive exploits.Bonner had that +6 from Manu's 1st quarter run... you know, that run that was all Manu.
He didn't even play the 4th quarter until 22 secs were left (thankfully)...
But it isn't always so good. Actually, in the playoffs, it's normally negative.
Of course it matters if it goes in. He doesn't need to be guarded otherwise. As a matter of fact, a lot of teams will "live" with Matty killing them, instead of Tony/Manu/Tim.
Terrible take, tbh... I'm glad Pop realized Matty can't be trusted and sat his ass out when the game was on the line. That's what good coaches do. I guess Pop is a re
Haha, yeah, there are a lot of Pop haters on this board. Pretty hilarious how many people here think he's not a good coach, I can only imagine the carnage if we actually had a below average one.
The Bonner stuff gets to me, because to me and to anyone who understands, the concepts behind how he helps the Spurs win games are so incredibly basic that it feels like anyone should be able to understand, so long as the concepts are explained to them. So I explain the concepts, and over and over, I feel like it gets through to no one. At first I thought I wasn't explaining things well enough.... then after a few more real attempts, I realized it's just the internet and people don't pay attention to arguments and reason here. Ever since, I just give half-hearted Bonner defenses in random Bonner threads.
Time to give up the crusade. Dumb people remain dumb. C'est la vie.
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Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb...........
Getting sucked back in by the stupidity.............
....no, must stay away.
Please, underdawg, you look so incredibly stupid in this post. Please please educate yourself. It nauseates me, reading this stuff, seeing how uninformed people are.
Ugh.
to be frank, everyone understands the "theory" behind it... heck, we actually had great players like Horry fulfilling that role admirably for years...
If he keeps playing 10 mpg when he's shooting like tonight, he can stay... my beef with Matty was trotting him 20+ mpg and getting nothing from him.. because if his shot is off, you absolutely get nothing from him... no spacing, no rebounds, no assists, nothing...
I think Pop was aware of this too thus getting another guy like Diaw who can space the floor just as well, but also contribute in other ways, like assists and rebounds...
Not true. You still get spacing.
Ten minutes of spacing is great. It's 32 minutes of iso in the post I can't stand.
How do you get spacing when Westbrook is guarding him?
In that case you don't. It does indeed depend on the defensive lineup. We're fortunate they can't always field a lineup that'll work that way.
Not true. You keep defenses honest by having actual treats... NBA coaches aren't dumb, at least at this level... Matt had two wide open 3s tonight. The reason? His guy didn't stay with him.
If his +/- would be indicative of how much better he makes the team, he would be playing 30+ mpg... you would think a HoF coach like Pop would go right at it.
But the times he has played that much at this level, the Spurs have lost. Unidimensional players have to play limited roles in the league. That's what Matt is. If he's hot from 3, perhaps you can justify playing him more. But when he doesn't have it, he has to sit down.
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