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  1. #26
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    I agree with Dok's theory tbh.

    At the beginning of the POs I said that the Spurs will go as far as Tim will go. During the 20 wins streak Tim seemed to be rejuvenated and played like a dominant big making pay the team playin' D one on one. On that serie, he is back to 2011 Tim unfortunately.

    The ceiling of the 2011/2012 spurs was the WCF.

    I hope he will prove me wrong but TP is not a franchise player capable to be the best player of a championship team, never was, never will be. Once again I hope I will eat a crow saying that but I don't see it.

    It doesn't mean he is not a great player. He carried the Spurs all the year, he is fighting during this serie on both side of the court. I cannot blame the lack of effort: he attacked the rim, defended westbrook like crazy, had a crazy game 2 (without his production spurs would already be out).

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    oh and shadow is still a tool

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    Even if OKC and Miami both win their series and even if Miami wins the finals, this theory will still have doubters, Jay Bilas will still be blabbering about how the NBA is a point guard's league during the draft, and most Suns fans will still be insistent on finding another point guard to build around.

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    Even if OKC and Miami both win their series and even if Miami wins the finals, this theory will still have doubters, Jay Bilas will still be blabbering about how the NBA is a point guard's league during the draft, and most Suns fans will still be insistent on finding another point guard to build around.
    People still think what happens in the regular season translates to the playoffs. Rose's Bulls, Parker's Spurs....

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    Once Brooks decided he wanted to put some length on Parker, pack the paint and switch the pick-n-roll, Parker had to do something special to continue to control the game. And he hasn't.
    I never understood why the it took this long for a team to do this against Parker. Yeah he's capable of knocking down some jumpers but when he gets in the lane, all breaks loose.

    Watching Utah and LAC play him, you'd think he was the second coming of Peja Stojakovic with the airtight defense they played. Makes no sense to me and another reason why most "NBA head coaches" are worthless.

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    I never understood why the it took this long for a team to do this against Parker. Yeah he's capable of knocking down some jumpers but when he gets in the lane, all breaks loose.

    Watching Utah and LAC play him, you'd think he was the second coming of Peja Stojakovic with the airtight defense they played. Makes no sense to me and another reason why most "NBA head coaches" are worthless.
    Teams can't pack the lane when one of thoses 2 things happen:
    • Parker is hot on his jumper
    • His teamates are making their open 3s


    In the first 2 series, Green, Neal, Diaw, Leonard and even Bonner (yes look at the stats, his was 40+% on 3s in theses playoffs before the OKC series) were making ther open 3s

    In the 2nd game against OKC, Parker's Jumper was on.

    In game 3, 4 and 5, he missed early on his Jumper, they packed the lane, game over.

    He could have been a franchise player if he had a really good jumper

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    oh and shadow is still a tool
    And you're still stalking and obsessed over me, go figure.

    TP4MVP

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    Parker was supposed to start shooting 3's as the mechanics of his jumpshot improved. Because he still can't (or doesn't), he has trouble finding space when the Thunder switch those pick and rolls.

    Yet another gimmick that has stopped a Parker-led team cold. Parker spent his entire career after 2004 working on his jumpshot so teams couldn't simply pack the paint on him. Now he has the choice of being more aggressive against the traps/switches/doubleteams of the PnR (at the cost of being blocked, turning the ball over, etc) or relying on a very iffy step back 3 point shot.

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    And you're still stalking and obsessed over me, go figure.

    TP4MVP
    ty takes after ty takes
    your debit of foolish thoughts is reaching another level in this off season
    spurs next year worst than the bobcats
    worst gnsf ever

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    Parker is known to shrivel up in big games and has a very inconsistent jumpshot. Those are recipes for failure regardless of what perimeter position you play.

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    shriveling up in big games seems like a trait you find in a lot of "franchise" point guards. Nash, Paul, Parker, Rose, etc. It stops being a coincidence after awhile.

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    None of those players shrivel up the way Parker does imo, their teams simply arent good enough to win it all. Parker underperforming on the other hand is the reason why his teams go from dominant to being dominated. After seeing his collapse this series I dont think a team with Parker as their best player can win it all, I do think itd be possible for a team to win it all with Paul/Rose as the best player though.

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    What you folks are saying, in reality, is that Parker is capable of beating anyone, but he decides not to.

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    What you folks are saying, in reality, is that Parker is capable of beating anyone, but he decides not to.
    Maybe after undergoing heavy hypnosis treatment.

    Parker is mentally weak.

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    Maybe after undergoing heavy hypnosis treatment.

    Parker is mentally weak.
    But you're saying he could. No one is calling Devin Harris mentally weak. When you drag one name around like that and won't let go, there's a reason. No one compares LeMarcus Aldridge to Michael Jordan, so you don't see any comparison threads and people denying it.

    So, what's happening here is this:

    Parker can beat anyone, but I don't believe it.

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    But you're saying he could. No one is calling Devin Harris mentally weak. When you drag one name around like that and won't let go, there's a reason. No one compares LeMarcus Aldridge to Michael Jordan, so you don't see any comparison threads and people denying it.

    So, what's happening here is this:

    Parker can beat anyone, but I don't believe it.
    Parker cant beat just anyone. There are certain teams that he is capable of shreding, no doubt but he has limited potential only.

    That's like saying Westbrook has the ability to beat anyone if he stops chucking ill-advise shots and actually think for a change.

    But we all know Westbrook likes to chuck up 20 times a game. Same applies to Parker, these players all revert to doing what they do best. Westbrook=loves shooting the ball infinite amount of times. Parker=shrinks under pressure.

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    Parker cant beat just anyone. There are certain teams that he is capable of shreding, no doubt but he has limited potential only.

    That's like saying Westbrook has the ability to beat anyone if he stops chucking ill-advise shots and actually think for a change.

    But we all know Westbrook likes to chuck up 20 times a game. Same applies to Parker, these players all revert to doing what they do best. Westbrook=loves shooting the ball infinite amount of times. Parker=shrinks under pressure.
    Anyone here can point out Westbrooks faults, and those are all decision issues. Otherwise he's a solid player as you've seen in the past 3 WCF games.

    Double coverage by playoff teams causes most players to shrink.

    Knick fans should never mention shrinking under pressure tbh.

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    18k posts and still cant figure out who my team is. smh

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    18k posts and still cant figure out who my team is. smh

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    What you folks are saying, in reality, is that Parker is capable of beating anyone, but he decides not to.
    There's some of that. Folding includes not doing what you've been doing simply because you're scared. He isn't being double or triple covered. Heck, guys like Fisher have guarded him one on one the last few games. He just went away from what got him there: his jumper. He's fixated into breaking the driving lane lock, and he's only going to do that when he starts to keep the defense honest with his shot.

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    There's some of that. Folding includes not doing what you've been doing simply because you're scared. He isn't being double or triple covered. Heck, guys like Fisher have guarded him one on one the last few games. He just went away from what got him there: his jumper. He's fixated into breaking the driving lane lock, and he's only going to do that when he starts to keep the defense honest with his shot.
    tbh I agree with that even if I don't think he is scared

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    I do think itd be possible for a team to win it all with Paul/Rose as the best player though.
    Then that's where we disagree. Neither one of those two will ever be the best player on a championship team.

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    Then that's where we disagree. Neither one of those two will ever be the best player on a championship team.
    I tend to agree, Rose last year has been shut down by Miami the same way OKC is shutting down TP. During that serie Miami contain him pretty well, he shot horribly and turned the ball over a lot.

    still need to see what CP3 could do with a squad with the talent of 2012 spurs or 2011 bulls

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