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    BTW, cops always "had" the right to check immigration status on a stop but it's never enforced and is frowned upon by the Obama administration. They told the cops a long time ago not to arrest any illegals, I personally know illegals who have been stopped without a license or registration and let go with just the speeding ticket and paid it like any ordinary CITIZEN would.

    Liberals reaching a new low here.

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    if illegals were checked upon getting stopped for traffic violations my ex and one of my homegirls would be loooooooooooooooooooooong gone!

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    Legally speaking, illegally crossing the border is indeed a felony (which is not necessarily being enforced, but that's another topic), whereas overstaying a legally granted visa is simply an administrative (civil, ie: no jail time) problem.

    The reality is that illegal immigration shouldn't be the free-for-all that it is now. Borders should be closely monitored and the current immigration laws do need certain degree of reform, but also should address putting some sort of control into the current situation. I'm an immigrant myself. I understand what the entire legal process looks like from coming in with a valid work visa to actually acquiring citizenship. Right now it's a too bureaucratic process, and too expensive because of that bureaucracy. There's plenty of avenues you can pursue to come over legally. Work, asylum, internship, investment, fiancé, etc, and if you don't fall on any of those categories, maybe you shouldn't be here at all. Just my 2c.
    That is why police officers no matter if they get their 2 hr ICE seminar cannot enforce immigration procedures because it is too broad and too complex.
    Also because according to Spurstalk, police officers are dumbasses.
    This SB1070 ruling did not resolve anything but bring fear and more expenses in lawsuits, boycotts, training and resources.

    There should be a mandate to allow legal immigrants in Arizona to buy discounted ammo to better protect themselves as idiot criminals will think non-whites will be easy targets since they will now be too afraid to call the police when their house is being invaded.

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    That is why police officers no matter if they get their 2 hr ICE seminar cannot enforce immigration procedures because it is too broad and too complex.
    Also because according to Spurstalk, police officers are dumbasses.
    This SB1070 ruling did not resolve anything but bring fear and more expenses in lawsuits, boycotts, training and resources.

    There should be a mandate to allow legal immigrants in Arizona to buy discounted ammo to better protect themselves as idiot criminals will think non-whites will be easy targets since they will now be too afraid to call the police when their house is being invaded.
    poor illegals

    yeah and after they shoot someone the cops will get called anyway and if they try to cover it up they'll look su ious of murder

    then they can get thrown in the american prison complex and manufacture for .23 cents an hour

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    That is why police officers no matter if they get their 2 hr ICE seminar cannot enforce immigration procedures because it is too broad and too complex.
    Also because according to Spurstalk, police officers are dumbasses.
    This SB1070 ruling did not resolve anything but bring fear and more expenses in lawsuits, boycotts, training and resources.
    Well, it's clear it didn't resolve or change anything, but that's not happening until Congress federally addresses it, and unfortunately it's too hot a topic and they're too chicken to do anything about it.

    Now, don' forget that justices in this case didn't address (because they were not asked to) the potential racial profiling issue with the "papers please" part, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities that if supporting evidence builds up on equality being violated in the course of applying such provision, that it won't be challenged again on such grounds.

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    then they can get thrown in the american prison complex and manufacture for .23 cents an hour
    And cost taxpayers $30K year

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    And cost taxpayers $30K year
    sure, but that's on your back, the people who own the prisons make quite the profit

    tee, hee


    circ away, war against men, lower their self esteems and turn them into criminals, nothing to see here, par per etc.

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    I never had a problem with police being able to check immigration status on people who were being stopped for something else. That part wasn't uncons utional at all. If the cops wanna check the immigration status on someone who was also committing a crime they should be able to and were able to prior to SB1070.

    God bless.
    jack is an idiot. he is stuck on stupid

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    I never had a problem with police being able to check immigration status on people who were being stopped for something else. That part wasn't uncons utional at all. If the cops wanna check the immigration status on someone who was also committing a crime they should be able to and were able to prior to SB1070.
    I totally agree. I agree so much that I think the cops should actually start invoking this forgotten authority of theirs.

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    Liberals say that things like gay marriage and abortion should not be left up to the states yet they have no problem with states ruling on things like gambling, marijuana, the death penalty, etc. . . Double standard, brah.

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    Obama made things so ty all the illegals wanted to go back home so Obama stepped in and said wait a minute guys, don't go! and passed that stupid temporary be@ner order of his, and he gets credit here by some for deporting a few criminals
    Still ignorant..

    BTW, cops always "had" the right to check immigration status on a stop but it's never enforced and is frowned upon by the Obama administration. They told the cops a long time ago not to arrest any illegals, I personally know illegals who have been stopped without a license or registration and let go with just the speeding ticket and paid it like any ordinary CITIZEN would.

    Liberals reaching a new low here.


    poor illegals

    yeah and after they shoot someone the cops will get called anyway and if they try to cover it up they'll look su ious of murder

    then they can get thrown in the american prison complex and manufacture for .23 cents an hour


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    What's so funny Stupid, you thought illegals could get a driver's license and insurance?

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    Liberals say that things like gay marriage and abortion should not be left up to the states yet they have no problem with states ruling on things like gambling, marijuana, the death penalty, etc. . . Double standard, brah.
    you are one stupid

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    What's so funny Stupid, you thought illegals could get a driver's license and insurance?
    I wish they could. So I dont have to purchase an uninsured motorist protection on my coverage.

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    Obama just slapped Brewer...again.
    She just made things harder for LEOs in AZ.
    Ugh, Brewer and Pearce really are dumb es!


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-agreements-/
    The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police.

    Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

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    ^thats exactly what I've been saying. The police have long had the legal basis to detain illegals but don't/can't due to obama.

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    What's so funny Stupid, you thought illegals could get a driver's license and insurance?
    Actually you'd be surprised how many do have them..

    but that's not the point, the point is you're ignorant, and you keep saying the same over and over.. "I know ILLEGALS AND THEY GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING! MORE THAN US CITIZENS!"

    That's what's funny, Stupid.

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    And I'll keep saying it as long as its relevant to the discussion and true.

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    Arizona H-1B Workers Advised to Carry Papers At All Times

    "In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling Monday on Arizona's immigration enforcement law, H-1B workers are being advised to keep their papers on them. About half of all H-1B visa holders are employed in tech occupations. The court struck down several parts of Arizona's law but nonetheless left in place a core provision allowing police officers to check the immigration status of people in the state at specific times. How complicated this gets may depend on the training of the police officer, his or her knowledge of work visas, and whether an H-1B worker in the state has an Arizona's driver's license. An Arizona state driver's license provides the presumption of legal residency. Nonetheless, H-1B workers could become entangled in this law and suffer delays and even detention while local police, especially those officers and departments unfamiliar with immigration do entation."

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    per the usual, this is probably going to inconvenience more actual citizens and legal immigrants than the illegals they're after...

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    Agreed.
    It is not required to have your id with you all the time but because of this, you will have to be sure your wallet is stuffed full of paperworks just to avoid the hassle.

    Im sure there will be a few incidents of people intentionally baiting an untrained LEO to question him and refusing to present his id/papers and then sue the police for detaining him because of that.

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    I can't wait for Arizona police to pull over every Hispanic going 1 MPH over the speed limit.

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    per the usual, this is probably going to inconvenience more actual citizens and legal immigrants than the illegals they're after...
    you mean like TSA harassing 100Ms Americans, at every age and disability, with the bogus security theatre? to catch how many, if any, terrorists?

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    All their landscaping would go to if they really enforced this law.

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    All their landscaping would go to if they really enforced this law.
    In Arizona anyways...

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