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  1. #26
    Yonivore
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    Yeah, it's just a nice round figure that ignores all the vagueries of war.

  2. #27
    Nbadan
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    I don't think so. Why? Because the 10,000 number that's being tossed around doesn't say if it's civilians, combatants, or a mixture of both.
    The number is civilians deaths. Suspected combatant deaths are counted seperately. Quit trying to white-wash death with your indignation towards Arabs.

  3. #28
    Yonivore
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    "The number is civilians deaths. Suspected combatant deaths are counted seperately. Quit trying to white-wash death with your indignation towards Arabs."
    Two questions:

    1) Who says so?

    2) So, what are the combatant deaths? If you know they're counted separately, you surely know who's keeping count of the combatant deaths and what they are.

    Also, last time I checked, al Qaeda, the terrorist insurgents, and most of the remnant Ba'athists weren't uniformed -- nor had they informed any international body of what qualifications their "soldiers" must possess to serve in their "army." No age restriction. No gender restriction. No restrictions on health condition or ideology or religion (Probably Islam though) or nationality. As far as I know they take all comers.

    So just how do we know how many of those 10,000 are non-combatant civilian deaths?

  4. #29
    Nbadan
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    The exact number doesn't really matter does it? Without W's original justification for the war coming to pass, every civilian death is a murder that should be investigated by the International community.

  5. #30
    Yonivore
    Guest
    Okay, then we agree, it's a matter of whether or not the war is legitimate.

    And, on that, we disagree.

    Congress gave the President the authority. His Presidential opponent stands behind that decision...today, at least. Iraq was clearly in violation of a cease-fire agreement from 1991 and 12 subsequent UNSC resolutions. And, the Iraqi people have yet to make a final determination on whether or not the war was a good thing for them.

    I'm comfortable with the decision.

  6. #31
    Nbadan
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    Congress gave the President the authority. His Presidential opponent stands behind that decision...today, at least. Iraq was clearly in violation of a cease-fire agreement from 1991 and 12 subsequent UNSC resolutions. And, the Iraqi people have yet to make a final determination on whether or not the war was a good thing for them.
    All this happened only with evidence cooked up by the Office of Special Plans. They ignored evidence that countered their reasoning for attacking Iraq, and promoted the legitimacy of questionable evidence that proved otherwise.

  7. #32
    scott
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    Quote:
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    "It would be nice if Bush would fight the war on terror rather than diverting valuable resources to his escapade in Iraq."
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    A lot of us believe the two are related. More than don't, as a matter of fact.
    How is this correlated with most people being idiots?

  8. #33
    Yonivore
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    Maybe you should do a study scott.

    (You're in danger of losing my vote)

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