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    Why try to talk sense to someone who views this as kidnapping?
    If a group of people is sidestepping the law to usher kids away from their parents, even if the kids WANT to escape, it's kidnapping. It's no different from a father with no custody rights convincing his daughter to come with him to Canada.

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    Why try to talk sense to someone who views this as kidnapping?
    I dunno, maybe just for the sake of having a potentially interesting and entertaining conversation? I can't promise that I'll agree with you but I can promise a good faith effort to be open minded. State your case. Why shouldn't I think forcibly removing kids from same sex households solely because it's a same sex household qualifies as kidnapping?

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-from-experts/

    "There are some valid criticisms that are being made, such as the measurement decision on who should be called a lesbian mother in this study," Regnerus said. "People might say that's irresponsible to do this study without all these stable lesbian couples in the study," he said, adding the random sampling only found two out of the 175 children who said they lived in a home with both same-sex parents throughout all 18 years. "I would have been happy to compare them but they did not exist in large enough numbers."
    Gee, I wonder how he drew the conclusion that same sex households were bad for kids when most of his sample was from unstable same-sex households.

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    If I think you're a bad parent is it okay for me to kidnap your kid? The welfare of your child is certainly more important than some law, and who could possibly know more about your child's welfare than me?

    What about all the kids being raised by poor families? Is it time to start rounding them up to take them away from their parents? Certainly they're being harmed by being raised in a poor family. What about single parent households? That can't be good for them either.
    Hey, the guy asked what is wrong with people. I just explained if you start from their premise (gay parents=child abuse) it's not that crazy or evil to come to that conclusion. And yes if i'm a bad parent the government (a.k.a. society) will "kidnap" my kids. In this case this religious crazies just don't see the government doing it's job, so they take it upon themselves to "fix" the situation. The solution seems "simple": the rest of us need to convince this people that gay parents=ok and the problem disappears.

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    Hey, the guy asked what is wrong with people. I just explained if you start from their premise (gay parents=child abuse) it's not that crazy or evil to come to that conclusion. And yes if i'm a bad parent the government (a.k.a. society) will "kidnap" my kids. In this case this religious crazies just don't see the government doing it's job, so they take it upon themselves to "fix" the situation. The solution seems "simple": the rest of us need to convince this people that gay parents=ok and the problem disappears.
    What you're describing is rationalization, which isn't the same thing as making a logical or acceptable decision. If you start with a crazy and evil premise, you're going to end up with a crazy and evil conclusion no matter what "logic" you try to apply in the middle.

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