San Antonio Bubble Mentality?

[lefty]

Money. Meanwhile, go pound sand lefty. I love my city.

[Buddy Holly]

San Antonio is an Americanized version of Mexico. Everywhere you go Mexican culture is strongly show cased and you'll find three taco stands on every block. Most NBA players aren't Mexicans but SA is pretty racially tolerant. It's not a small city by any means either, it's actually one of the bigger cities in the country.

There are tons of fat people though, it tends to be conservative (a lot of catholic Mexicans set the tone), and in general there just isn't much to do for young people. If you're young and wealthy I can understand not wanting to live in San Antonio because it's really not that great, very little special about it, with little to offer.

Sucks.

So you're talking out your ass is what you're saying? How does San Antonio tend to be conservative? The last three Mayors were democrats. In 2008, Bexar county voted for Obama. Six of the last seven Mayors were democrats. Bill Thorton being the only Republican Mayor.

Massive city bonds get passed every few years.

An openly gay woman and gay man have been voted on to the city council.

San Antonio leads the nation in gay family households percentage wise.

I can keep going.

As for your last few comments. It's not that great but almost all Spurs players who have played 3-4 plus seasons here end up retiring here. Right.

Sean Marks round up retiring and living here and he's from New Zealand and played in Phoenix, Portland, etc. But you're opinion is so on point.

[Stabula]

So you're talking out your ass is what you're saying? How does San Antonio tend to be conservative? The last three Mayors were democrats. In 2008, Bexar county voted for Obama. Six of the last seven Mayors were democrats. Bill Thorton being the only Republican Mayor.

Massive city bonds get passed every few years.

An openly gay woman and gay man have been voted on to the city council.

San Antonio leads the nation in gay family households percentage wise.

In 2008 everyone voted for Obama. There's probably so many gays because San Antonio is a big military city and the military is full of gays. The military is not a liberal organization. The whole reason this city exists is because of the military. There's also more to conservatism than politics.

As for your last few comments. It's not that great but almost all Spurs players who have played 3-4 plus seasons here end up retiring here. Right.

Sean Marks round up retiring and living here and he's from New Zealand and played in Phoenix, Portland, etc. But you're opinion is so on point.

San Antonio isn't that great, get over it. You visit other big cities in this country or even in other parts of the world and you quickly realize how lacking San Antonio is in so many ways. I don't even see how that can be argued. Because Sean Marks? Please...

[Buddy Holly]

In 2008 everyone voted for Obama. There's probably so many gays because San Antonio is a big military city and the military is full of gays. The military is not a liberal organization. The whole reason this city exists is because of the military. There's also more to conservatism than politics.

Are you 15 or are you an adult with the intelligence of a 15 year old? I almost 99 percent sure you're a jag off troll. But I'll bite.

Everyone didn't vote for Obama in 2008.

The military is full of gays? Jesus...

San Antonio wouldn't exist without the military? Ok, you are 15. No, I take that back, 13.

And yes, there is more to conservatism than what political party you fall under, which is why I gave you two or three examples that didn't concern politics, you dumbass troll.

San Antonio isn't that great, get over it. You visit other big cities in this country or even in other parts of the world and you quickly realize how lacking San Antonio is in so many ways. I don't even see how that can be argued. Because Sean Marks? Please...

I'm sure google has allowed you to go on many great expeditions of "other big cities" or maybe your imagination has, I don't know. I want to believe your parents are strict with internet usage in your house.

But way to oversimplify everything I said while missing the points altogether. Brilliant strategy kid.

Now go brush your teeth, take your vitamins with a glass of milk and tomorrow, hit the books.

[Solid D]

Troll Trap

[NRHector]

The Mexican Cartels will save and invest in SA then it'll become a city with alot of money where players will love to play and party

[Buddy Holly]

The Mexican Cartels will save and invest in SA then it'll become a city with alot of money where players will love to play and party

Save? From what?

BTW, Graham Weston is already using his billions to invest in San Antonio. He's putting hundreds of millions into downtown.

[DMC]

Is it just me or does the San Antonio culture seem to exist in it's own bubble where free agents are very hesitant to enter?

First I've heard of it.

[DMC]

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

SA is a black hole for the media. Players not only want to win, they want money. They not only want money, they want fame. They not only want fame, they want attention from the media. They don't want to have to fly to another city to attend a decent event. Even TNT dogs the out of SA. Same is true for OKC. No one is going to want to play there, even if they win a ring.

They don't want to be bible beaten.

They don't want to fall into group lock step with Tim Duncan's head patting routine.

It's a retirement destination for players.

[racm]

It's too Hispanic and not black enough, tbh

[Buddy Holly]

It's too Hispanic and not black enough, tbh

Probably. We'd be a top three landing spot for soccer!

[racm]

Why else would Manu be at home?

[Buddy Holly]

They don't want to be bible beaten.

They wouldn't in SA.

[Buddy Holly]

Why else would Manu be at home?

His wife called him?

[rascal]

LOL that Phoenix is the measuring stick to compare to. Wow, SA is slightly better than the place that's 110 every day.

San Antonio isn't much better. 98 for months on end with higher humidity.

[rascal]

San Antonio is a boring town to many young black athletes.

[Kori Ellis]

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

This is the best answer in the thread.

[maverick1948]

San Antonio is a small city with a small market. Simply put they don't have as much dough as other cities. I can't comment on how the place and the people are since I've never been there but it doesn't look bad, I wouldn't call it " ty". BTW, anyone here ever been to NY or LA?

San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the US. Factor in the outlying areas that make up the market, you have well over 2.5 million and growing fast. While LA and NY claim everything within a 75 mile radius as their market, we have Austin only 70 miles from SA and getting closer every year. Austin growing at 41 % and SA at 22 % means a lot more people in the SA market.

Pop is one of the most widely respected coaches in the league, so I doubt he's the problem. His system, however, may be one of the culprits.

1) The Spurs system is notoriously nuanced and complicated. If you had to do a job, would you want to it the simple and fun way, or the difficult and complex way? I think some players just wouldn't want to put in the time, and know they wouldn't stick around long if they didn't. They also know that they will have to give into the "team concept"....meaning they can't try to constantly put themselves in the spotlight. With most NBA players being alpha dogs, and also wanting to showcase their skills to land bigger contracts, that probably doesn't sit well.

2) San Antonio is not a "premiere destination". Sure, its a nice town...but there's no beach, no mountains, no big money market, not a lot of night-life....it's a family town, and not a lot of NBA players are "family guys". Outside of that, about the only thing it really has going is cost of living and no state taxes.

3) Spurs are known for being fiscal, and also don't have a lot of cap space. That means they don't overpay their players, and they make them earn what they do pay. Players are more likely to get a big payday from a team that throws its money around, as opposed to coming to San Antonio where they will be pressured to take less money.

4) Like it or not, the Spurs aren't contenders anymore. They aren't far off, but they are still on the outside looking in. I'm sure players would rather play for a playoff team than a cellar dweller....but they'd also rather play for a true contender than a possible pretender.

Dex agreed with you on #1 and some of #3. Spurs spend their money in a way that keeps players here. If we paid like Lakers we would go broke. We dont charge the same for tickets. But to say we dont pay is foolish. We have had one of the higher payrolls over the last 15 years. We do watch the luxury tax. That gives a misnomer that we are cheap.

As for #2, you must have missed the fact that we have some very fine resorts within driving distance of SA. Excellent golf and swimming resorts abound in this area. Not everything has to revolve around rap and hiphop music. Depending on where in LA you live, it may be a 3 or 4 hour drive to a safe beach, while it is only 4 hours for an overnight stay in Corpus. After driving thru California on a 2 week vacation, I found that there were things there that were not here. We had snow in Donner Pass, Heat and earthquake in LA, rush hour traffic that lasted all day(in SA it lasts less than an hour to get anywhere in the city). Leaving LA, we saw nothing but desert until we got back to Texas(this includes Arizona and New Mexico). I invite you to come to the Hill Country and see the beauty of Texas, go to East Texas and see the Piney Woods. Visit NASA in Houston, the Alamo in SA and Dallas, Ft Worth see Texas. SA has enough history in the area to fill a book of its own.

#4. No longer contenders. What does playing in the playoffs for 15 consecutive years, winning 4 les, winning 50 or more games a season in 15 straight years and winning 20 games in row mean? If you are wanting to compare franchise historys, then we dont stand up to some of the others, LA or Bos but we are close to Chicago and ahead of the others. I can name you 20+ teams that would love to have the same problems we have.

[Bill_Brasky]

don't you dare trash talk my city!

I like SA, not the best city around but it's a fun place to go that's not far from ATX. Once you get used to the "big city laid out like a small town" vibe you can enjoy yourself there. IDK about living there though.

[Blake]

Probably. We'd be a top three landing spot for soccer!

It's what the Alamodome was built for

[SpursDynasty]

Lol at everyone here trash talking SA. Yet you live here too.

That being said, this city lacks charisma and people in this town only care about two things.

[Buddy Holly]

Thought this useless thread died a slow death.

[Buddy Holly]

It's what the Alamodome was built for

No, it wasn't.

[baseline bum]

It's what the Alamodome was built for

The Alamodome was built to bring the NFL to SA.

[Blake]

No, it wasn't.

Spurs + soccer?