We know the case for anthropogenic climate change to be a very strong one so nope. But in any event, watch the show before you tell us how wrong they are.
By funding pundits, creating commercials and otherwise being politically active in DC.
This is not a hard concept. I am sure that most people have not heard of ALEC. Are you trying to say that they are not influential? I would argue that since they have written legislature in every single state that they are the most influential political lobby out there.
If it is, then why has public opinion changed?
I'll watch, but it is apparent from the description of the show that they have already made up their mind.
You've already made up your mind. Well at least since you changed your position from 'it's not warming' to 'it's not us that's causing it.'
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2388/glo...y-earth-warmerThe percentage of Americans saying there is solid evidence of global warming has steadily increased over the past few years. Currently, 67% say there is solid evidence that the earth's average temperature has been getting warmer over the past few decades, up four points since last year and 10 points since 2009.
Similarly, an increasing proportion say that the rise in the earth's temperature has mostly been caused by human activity. Currently, 42% say the warming is mostly caused by human activity, such as burning fossil fuels, while 19% say it is mostly caused by natural patterns in the earth's environment. Last year, 38% mostly attributed global warming to human activity and in 2010 34% did so.
[QUOTE=FuzzyLumpkins;6155213]You've already made up your mind. Well at least since you changed your position from 'it's not warming' to 'it's not us that's causing it.'
straw and straw
I don't hold either of those positions.
No you no longer hold thr first. I remember your hockey stick posts from back in the day though.
So your saying that the human contribution is insignificant? Or are you saying that it is benign and/or good.
The Hockey Stick was always bogus. They don't even use that graph anymore -- at least not the version that was given such prominence in the 2001 IPCC report.
I don't know how significant human contribution is compared to natural variation.
Then my original point still stands you are on the 'we cannot be sure it's us' so we shouldn't do anything tip. I also remember your charts from just last year where you were saying it hasn't warmed in ten years. Bottom line is that you are about on the level of Romney in changing your positions. You don't argue empirically. You argue for a desired outcome.
So you would expect the show to change after its been filmed and investigated? WTF? I'm literally LOLing.
I've heard of both, and I don't really have a horse in this race.
AEI is hardly obscure. Relentlessly flacked in the Right Blogistan and even holds a regular chair on the Diane Rehm show.
, I've probably posted five things from AEI here. Bet you haven't, D.
Heartland Calls Wahhmbulance, Anticipates PBS Frontline will Report Truth Tonight
Heartland screed as follows:On Tuesday, October 23, PBS’s “Frontline” program will broadcast a special led “Climate of Doubt.” It promises to go “inside the organizations” that helped turn the tide of public opinion, and then of elected officials, away from excessive concern over the possible threat of man-made global warming.
The Heartland Ins ute is likely to be a central figure in this program as we welcomed “Frontline” producer Catherine Upin and her crew to our Seventh International Conference on Climate Change in Chicago in May. Heartland Ins ute Senior Fellow James M. Taylor also gave a three-hour interview to the film crew in August. Earlier this year, The Economist called Heartland “the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change.”
We hope the program is accurate and fair, but past experience both with PBS and other mainstream media outlets leads us to predict it will be neither. Several Heartland staff will be watching the program and commenting live via Twitter and on our blog, Somewhat Reasonable.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...truth-tonight/
AEI and Heartland are so powerful that they managed to get both Obama and Romney to say squat about climate change in the debates.
Al Gore is crying, but at least he made his 100 million.
Sitting down to watch the episode now.
I'm betting they'll never do a show on the IPCC.
LOL they just talked about Darrin's favorite method of cherry picking 10 year periods out of context.
Now they're talking about Darrin's second favorite topic: Climategate.
I can now understand why you were so butthurt about this episode before you saw it, Darrin. You were right to be worried.
A trend of contemporaries unwilling to consider the consequences of their actions and the effect that will have on their legacy to their children and their children's children. Sounds like a familiar refrain. At least it is from my point of view.
If anyone is interested, I just started watching the program.
What if climate change is natural and human kind has had a minimal part in it? Why does climate change have to be man made and gloom and doom? Why do people want The Day After Tomorrow to happen?
Finished watching it.
Now I'm even more for banning all government funds to PBS. Talk about an unsubstantiated hit piece. It was clearly one sided.
You just love repeating other people's lies, don't you?
Heartland Ins ute Anticipates Unfair Treatment in Tonight’s PBS Frontline Special ‘Climate of Doubt’. A paragraph:
We hope the program is accurate and fair, but past experience both with PBS and other mainstream media outlets leads us to predict it will be neither. Several Heartland staff will be watching the program and commenting live via Twitter and on our blog, Somewhat Reasonable.
Great episode.
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