Reply With QuotePlease, there was nothing specific in that memo."who cares if it was the next damn day? a warning is a warning, too bad bush didnt give a "
who cares if it was the next damn day? a warning is a warning, too bad bush didnt give aOh yeah, eight ing weeks
yeah, like the time he thwarted the attack on LAX...i guess that doesnt count for anything, and the amount of spending for counter terrorism measuresSomeone had eight years and ample reason to strike against terrorism.
from all the info bush was receiving at the time, it seems like many...but go ahead and apologize for himWhat other threats were facing the US at that time?
an now we see how the bush doctrine has created more terrorists and put us into a losing warWe saw what happened when you treat terrorism as a law enforcement matter.
Please, there was nothing specific in that memo."who cares if it was the next damn day? a warning is a warning, too bad bush didnt give a "
Maybe he should have shut down all of the airlines and called for everyone to stay home from work.
Yeah, until the 5th of Never.
What exactly was he supposed to do? He got a ing generic warning that Islamist terrorists were determined to strike in the US. Did not Clinton get a real example of that in 1993? Again, eight ing years.who cares if it was the next damn day?
Was Bush supposed to invade Afghanistan? Was he supposed to immediately start investigating ME nationals and restricting their movement? I'm sure a lot on the left would have gone along with him on that.
Oh yeah, it's Bush fault.a warning is a warning, too bad bush didnt give a
That was ing luck. A customs officer operating on her own and doing what they have long been allowed to do.yeah, like the time he thwarted the attack on LAX...i guess that doesnt count for anything, and the amount of spending for counter terrorism measures
They were generic threats, and again, what was he exactly supposed to do? The plot to attack the WTC had already been set in motion. There was an opportunity to shut it down and that would have been a real response to the original WTC attack instead of treating it as a criminal matter.from all the info bush was receiving at the time, it seems like many...but go ahead and apologize for him
Has the US been attacked? "Losing war"? Wake the **** up. The only war to be lost is doing nothing about the terrorists and praying they go away (you know, the Clinton strategy).an now we see how the bush doctrine has created more terrorists and put us into a losing war
Ooohhh..I like all the rough talk by you tough conservatives!
Actually, wasn't it reported that Cholesterol Clinton got the same exact warning in 1996 and then, after 9/11, tried to suppress this fact?"Did not Clinton get a real example of that in 1993"
I seem to recall something to that effect.
I'll google it and see what come up.
Yeah, here it is:
For those of you that want to kill the messenger (Newsmax.com) look it up in the 9-11 Commission report. It's there.
So, for those of you that think Bush should have been able to devine a date, place, and means of the al Qaeda September 11th attacks; where's your similar criticism of Clinton who got pretty much the same PDB, (in 1998 instead of 1996)?
Given the left's response to the efforts of the Bush administration to deal with the threat of Islamist terrrorism post-9/11 I have no doubt as to what the response would have been prior to 9/11 if Bush had decided to invade Afghanistan, step up airport screening, begin investigations into terrorist ties among Muslim-Americans, etc...
Damn, is war the answer for everything for you conservatives?
You don't like muslims so you attack them.
You don't like gays so you attack them.
You don't like atheists so you attack them.
You don't like those who speak out against this administration so you attack them.
I guess you all are into corporal punishment at home too?
Do you all smack you kids before they go to school as a "pre-emptive strike" against bad behavior?
Do you kick your pet before you leave as a "pre-emptive strike" against pissing on the floor?
That's a bit of a stretch, Clit.
Well, if I found out their itinerary for the day was murdering those that don't love Yu-Gi-Oh as much as they do and have better clothes, I certainly wouldn't sit on my ass and let them wonder out the front door knowing that. My parents never had a problem dishing it out when it was warranted, and I don't need therapy. I do, however, have a healthy respect for authority. :winkDo you all smack you kids before they go to school as a "pre-emptive strike" against bad behavior?
And if you want to speak in simplistic analogies, are you up-to-date on your vaccines? Or are you going to wait until you have full-blown small pox before you seek medical attention?
Given the left's response to the efforts of the Bush administration to deal with the threat of Islamist terrrorism post-9/11 I have no doubt as to what the response would have been prior to 9/11 if Bush had decided to invade Afghanistan, step up airport screening, begin investigations into terrorist ties among Muslim-Americans, etc...
This hasn't stopped you from attacking Clinton for not going to Sudan and forcibly taking Usama. Even though there was no International or U.S. warrants issued for Usama at the time.
This is why when W, found out that a second plane had hit Tower 2 of the WTC complex, he knew immediately that it wasn't just a 'bad pilot' and put us in a state of Emergency, made sure NORAD was adequately contacted and the country protected, and called for a independent commission to investigate who was responsible for the attacks - oh, wait a minute. No he didn't.So, for those of you that think Bush should have been able to devine a date, place, and means of the al Qaeda September 11th attacks; where's your similar criticism of Clinton who got pretty much the same PDB, (in 1998 instead of 1996)?
He was to busy ducking for cover. Probably in Alabama.
NORAD was contacted before the planes hit the towers. Granted, the FAA contacted NORAD too late after the planes became unresponsive, but it's not the President's responsibility to contact them.
Everything he needed to do can be done aboard Air Force One. There's no reason he should have taken a direct flight to New York City.
Well if you are going to bash Bush for not taking care of bin Ladin in his first 8 months of the presidency how is the man who had 8 years to do so (and plenty of reason) above blame?This hasn't stopped you from attacking Clinton for not going to Sudan and forcibly taking Usama. Even though there was no International or U.S. warrants issued for Usama at the time.
I'm blaming W. for not working to prevent the largest Domestic terrorists attack on U.S. soil, not failing to capture Usama. Instead of spending 40% of his first few months in office on vacation maybe W. could have met with his terrorist chief Richard Clarke at least once.
Again, what was he supposed to have done?
Oh, so now it's meeting with Clarke. Clarke, the man who knew everything, at least he would have you believe.
That's why he spent another hour and a half at the elementry school where he was too busy reading "My Pet Goat" instead of helping to protect the nation. There was a international airport less than a hour flight from that school and there was no way of knowing whether a plane had been hijacked from that airport, but there Bush sat putting himself, the nation, and especially the kids in the school in jeopardy.Everything he needed to do can be done aboard Air Force One.
He could have done something, anything. If the CIA was under such bad shape under Tenet why did W. keep him around?what was he supposed to have done?
Apparently, Nbadan is unaware that there is a whole infrastructure that supports the President's office in times of emergency. Things like the military, the FAA, the FBI, CIA, and Secret Service. Then there's local and state officials of New York and Pennsylvania that immediately went into action on September 11.
I guess you think the President is supposed to run into a closet, emerge with his Superman outfit on, and immediately start making the operational decisions on everything from evacuations to fire suppression to air traffic control?
If that's the case, thank God Kerry wasn't President. He sat in stunned silence for 40 minutes, unable to fathom the magnitude of the attacks, until he was shaken from his shock by an order to evacuate.
That's what we need, a President frozen by fear.
When a professional, like a Medical examiner, hires people to do a job for him, he can be held accountable for any mistakes they make even to the point where his professional license can be revoked. Even though he did not have anything to do with the mistake.
Shouldn't we hold the President of the U.S. to the same standard we would a Medical Examiner in any large city?
LOL!
An hour and a half? Try 30 minutes.
From the 9/11 Commission Report:
The President and the Vice President The President was seated in a classroom when, at 9:05, Andrew Card whispered to him:“A second plane hit the second tower.America is under attack.” The President told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the country see an excited reaction at a moment of crisis.The press was standing behind the children; he saw their phones and pagers start to ring. The President felt he should project strength and calm until he could better understand what was happening.203
The President remained in the classroom for another five to seven minutes, while the children continued reading. He then returned to a holding room shortly before 9:15, where he was briefed by staff and saw television coverage. He next spoke to Vice President Cheney, Dr. Rice, New York Governor George Pataki, and FBI Director Robert Mueller. He decided to make a brief statement from the school before leaving for the airport. The Secret Service told us they were anxious to move the President to a safer location, but did not think it imperative for him to run out the door. 204
Between 9:15 and 9:30,the staff was busy arranging a return to Washington, while the President consulted his senior advisers about his remarks. No one in the traveling party had any information during this time that other aircraft were hijacked or missing. Staff was in contact with the White House Situation Room, but as far as we could determine, no one with the President was in contact with the Pentagon. The focus was on the President’s statement to the nation. The only decision made during this time was to return to Washington. 205
The President’s motorcade departed at 9:35,and arrived at the airport between 9:42 and 9:45.
Spurm, I was going to ignore the exaggeration.
Nbadan went from criticizing the President's direct actions to criticizing something that would have been the case whether he'd of pulled a Henny Penny or did exactly what he did.
Nbadan, can't stick to a theme...why nitpick him on the facts he can't seem to retain?
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