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    for what?

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    Boner doesn't run the show because he can't deliver Cantor and 1%'s tea baggers to any compromise.

    Any "compromise" bill out of the House will have extreme Repug (abortion, marriage) amendments, conditions that will fail in the Senate.

    The blatant corruption and severe constipation of Congress, Senate's "anonymous" holds, etc, will continue, unchanged. And Repugs still run all the House (finance) committees, so defunding of ACA, FDA, SEC, etc, will continue.

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    Boner doesn't run the show because he can't deliver Cantor and 1%'s tea baggers to any compromise.

    Any "compromise" bill out of the House will have extreme Repug (abortion, marriage) amendments, conditions that will fail in the Senate.

    The blatant corruption and severe constipation of Congress, Senate's "anonymous" holds, etc, will continue, unchanged. And Repugs still run all the House (finance) committees, so defunding of ACA, FDA, SEC, etc, will continue.

    Nobody needs to cave to EITHER side's ideological purists. Those willing to compromise from the Republicans and Democrats can get something done - let the (relatively hanful of) purists dangle in the wind. The remainder just can't go Hatfield/McCoy. This is where leadership comes in. If they cannot get it done, it's not the "tea party's" fault - or those from the extreme left; they are just doing what they were sent there to do (presumably) by their cons uents - they should have a voice, after all. BUT so should the moderates, the centrists, from BOTH parties (who represent the majority of Americans).

    If it doesn't pass, it's on Boehner and Obama. They should be able to come up with something that 300 + members can sign on to - gives everyone cover. No more of this 219 bull .

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    Nobody needs to cave to EITHER side's ideological purists. Those willing to compromise from the Republicans and Democrats can get something done - let the (relatively hanful of) purists dangle in the wind. The remainder just can't go Hatfield/McCoy. This is where leadership comes in. If they cannot get it done, it's not the "tea party's" fault - or those from the extreme left; they are just doing what they were sent there to do (presumably) by their cons uents - they should have a voice, after all. BUT so should the moderates, the centrists, from BOTH parties (who represent the majority of Americans).

    If it doesn't pass, it's on Boehner and Obama. They should be able to come up with something that 300 + members can sign on to - gives everyone cover. No more of this 219 bull .
    very pretty theory.

    In practice, the tea baggers (of which I know of no equivalent on the Dem side) won't compromise. They will adhere to/hide behind their pledge to Norquist, to their OT "God" (abortion, gay marriage).

    My prediction of Congressional paralysis is based on recent past, and it's the best indicator of the future. Your theory is wishful thinking.

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    very pretty theory.

    In practice, the tea baggers (of which I know of no equivalent on the Dem side) won't compromise. They will adhere to/hide behind their pledge to Norquist, to their OT "God" (abortion, gay marriage).

    My prediction of Congressional paralysis is based on recent past, and it's the best indicator of the future. Your theory is wishful thinking.
    Tea party members are not even a quarter of the Republican caucus - leaving roughly 400 other members; should not be a problem to get something passed without their support. Again, leadership is required.

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    very pretty theory.

    In practice, the tea baggers (of which I know of no equivalent on the Dem side) won't compromise. They will adhere to/hide behind their pledge to Norquist, to their OT "God" (abortion, gay marriage).

    My prediction of Congressional paralysis is based on recent past, and it's the best indicator of the future. Your theory is wishful thinking.
    Paralysis means the bush tax cuts expire and the sequestration proceeds. There is not a single person in congress who wants that to happen.

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    Tea party members are not even a quarter of the Republican caucus - leaving roughly 400 other members; should not be a problem to get something passed without their support. Again, leadership is required.
    ing right. There will always be a fringe and its never bad to listen and understand them/it, especially considering they were elected by Americans to represent their interests. If after listening you come to the understanding that they are bat- crazy, its time to move on.

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    Very encouraging. Let's get some done and stop being such hyperpartisan dumbasses.

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    I really don't see it happening. I've been reading the National Review for the past few days, just to see what the reaction would be. Do I see sober analysis? Questions about policies? Very rarely. Most comments are about how the country is overcome by takers, we're all doomed, we're going to become socialist Europe, etc etc. Even RedState diaries (though not their commenters) are more sensible. If the GOP, and the people that make up the GOP, are going to continue to whine about how they can't understand why anyone wouldn't vote for GOP, I just don't see their elected representatives getting it either.

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