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    You have to look at these things like a golden calf. Buy some guns, ammo, magazines, wait for the panic, sell for double or more.

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    With what part of this do you have an issue?

    "We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said.

    "We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the cons utional rights of our citizens to bear arms," he said.
    The way those words in the 2nd Amendment have been twisted to mean whatever the judge or governing state body wants it to mean doesn't give me comfort. We have states that do not allow firearms, states that register them, states that have some fat sheriff decide if you need one, so on and so forth. Only a couple states actually consider the 2nd Amendment at face value. The term "infringes" means different things just as the term "is" does, it seems.

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    This is just Obama's way of pumping money into the economy. He scares the wing nuts into thinking their guns are being taken away, and they go out in record numbers buying up every rifle, shotgun, and bullet in sight. Wing Nut Keynesianism tbh.

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    This is just Obama's way of pumping money into the economy. He scares the wing nuts into thinking their guns are being taken away, and they go out in record numbers buying up every rifle, shotgun, and bullet in sight. Wing Nut Keynesianism tbh.
    KENYANISM?!?!?

    I ing knew it.

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    whether approved or not it's only gonna affect the global arms trade, don't see it make any impact domestically tbh

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    So what do you think this treaty will do to the availability of guns in this country?


    The question remains.

    My answer: Nuthin'.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

    This treaty is little more than an attempt to limit some shockingly horrific going on in some parts of the world, violence driven by arms trade

    Since Russia and China are the ones selling this stuff, they oppose it, and have opposed it for a while.

    It has all to do with the 2nd amendment in this country, and everything to do with children drafted to be murderers, cannibals, and rapists.

    Hopefully the UN can get this resolution done.

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    America, arms-dealer to the world

    When it comes to weaponry, to paraphrase Seger, we’re still young and proud and makin’ Predators and Reapers (as in unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones) and Eagles and Fighting Falcons (as in F-15 and F-16 combat jets), and outfitting them with the deadliest of weapons. In this market niche, we’re still the envy of the world.

    We are uneasy no more. Today we take great pride (or at least have no shame) in being by far the world’s number one arms-exporting nation. A few statistics bear this out. From 2006 to 2010, the U.S. accounted for nearly one-third of the world’s arms exports, easily surpassing a resurgent Russia in the “Lords of War” race. Despite a decline in global arms sales in 2010 due to recessionary pressures, the U.S. increased its market share, accounting for a whopping 53 percent of the trade that year. Last year saw the U.S. on pace to deliver more than $46 billion in foreign arms sales. Who says America isn’t number one anymore?

    For a shopping list of our arms trades, try searching the Stockholm International Peace Research Ins ute database for arms exports and imports. It reveals that, in 2010, the U.S. exported “major conventional weapons” to 62 countries, from Afghanistan to Yemen, and weapons platforms ranging from F-15, F-16 and F-18 combat jets to M1 Abrams main battle tanks to Cobra attack helicopters (sent to our Pakistani comrades) to guided missiles in all flavors, colors, and sizes: AAMs, PGMs, SAMs, TOWs — a veritable alphabet soup of missile acronyms.

    Never mind their specific meaning: They’re all designed to blow things up; they’re all designed to kill.


    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/24/america_arms_dealer_to_the_world/

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    America, arms-dealer to the world

    When it comes to weaponry, to paraphrase Seger, we’re still young and proud and makin’ Predators and Reapers (as in unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones) and Eagles and Fighting Falcons (as in F-15 and F-16 combat jets), and outfitting them with the deadliest of weapons. In this market niche, we’re still the envy of the world.

    We are uneasy no more. Today we take great pride (or at least have no shame) in being by far the world’s number one arms-exporting nation. A few statistics bear this out. From 2006 to 2010, the U.S. accounted for nearly one-third of the world’s arms exports, easily surpassing a resurgent Russia in the “Lords of War” race. Despite a decline in global arms sales in 2010 due to recessionary pressures, the U.S. increased its market share, accounting for a whopping 53 percent of the trade that year. Last year saw the U.S. on pace to deliver more than $46 billion in foreign arms sales. Who says America isn’t number one anymore?

    For a shopping list of our arms trades, try searching the Stockholm International Peace Research Ins ute database for arms exports and imports. It reveals that, in 2010, the U.S. exported “major conventional weapons” to 62 countries, from Afghanistan to Yemen, and weapons platforms ranging from F-15, F-16 and F-18 combat jets to M1 Abrams main battle tanks to Cobra attack helicopters (sent to our Pakistani comrades) to guided missiles in all flavors, colors, and sizes: AAMs, PGMs, SAMs, TOWs — a veritable alphabet soup of missile acronyms.

    Never mind their specific meaning: They’re all designed to blow things up; they’re all designed to kill.


    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/24/america_arms_dealer_to_the_world/

    Can you imagine what our trade imbalance would look like without that?

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    The treaty would require states to make respecting human rights a criterion for allowing arms exports.
    An interesting inclusion since the UN considers the death penalty to be a human rights violation.

    http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...n#.UJ0978XR58E

    3 July 2012 – United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon today called on Member States which use the death penalty to abolish this practice, stressing that the right to life lies at the heart of international human rights law.

    “The taking of life is too absolute, too irreversible, for one human being to inflict on another, even when backed by legal process,” Mr. Ban told a panel organized by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR ) on ‘Moving away from the death penalty – Lessons from national experiences’ at UN Headquarters in New York.

    “Where the death penalty persists, conditions for those awaiting execution are often horrifying, leading to aggravated suffering,” he added.

    In 2007, the General Assembly endorsed a call for a worldwide moratorium of the death penalty. Since then, the practice has been abolished by countries like Argentina, Burundi, Gabon, Latvia, Togo and Uzbekistan. More than 150 States have either abolished the death penalty or do not practice it.

    However, Mr. Ban noted, the death penalty is still used for a wide range of crimes in various countries. In particular, he expressed concern that 32 States retain the death penalty for drug-related offences, and its use on juvenile offenders.

    “I am also very concerned that some countries still allow juvenile offenders under the age of 18 at the time of the alleged offence to be sentenced to death and executed,” Mr. Ban said. “The call by the General Assembly for a global moratorium is a crucial stepping stone in the natural progression towards a full worldwide abolition of the death penalty.”

    The High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, has also repeatedly called for the universal abolition of the death penalty, citing a host of reasons ranging from the fundamental right to life to the possibility of judicial errors.

    In addition, Mr. Ban’s Guidance Note of 2008 on the UN Approach to Rule of Law Assistance stated that the UN will not establish or directly participate in any tribunal that allows for capital punishment.

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    Can you imagine what our trade imbalance would look like without that?
    They don't give a . They would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat.

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    Can you imagine what our trade imbalance would look like without that?
    That article is old. I think 2011 US MIC's Lords of Wars trafficked nearly $70B in weapons.

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    That article is old. I think 2011 US MIC's Lords of Wars trafficked nearly $70B in weapons.
    And of course, the MIC's weapons are developed on the US taxpayer $Ts ($1.5T for F-35 and it's a pile of unflyable ), much like the US pays twice for/subsidizes BigPharma drugs so BigPharma can traffic them overseas much cheaper and still make profit.

    Americans are suckers and ATMs for the United Corporations of America.

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    No need to rush out and buy guns and ammo. Chill people.

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    ^ppl been doing that for 4 years

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    Yeah, with all the gun legislation Obama passed when he had full control of the government, the Alex Jones/Glenn Beck militia were sure prescient.

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